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Old 11-07-2011, 01:20 PM
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i been debateing on what to do with my car and well i just decided im gunna build my d series up and maybe do a lil nitrious on it. im not tryn to meet a hp goal but i just want a reliable car that is sleeper. im lookn at the stage 3 bisi cam, with a adj cam gear of some sort. D16Z6 Spring and titanium retainer kit, D16Z6, Y8, Y7, A6, 76mm 11:1 compression for pistons. stayn with stock z6 im, might do a ls tb, and idk about injectors yet.fuel pump will be a walbro 225 with a adj fpr. i have a ebay header with 2.25 exhaust gutted cat, into a dc sport muffler, injen cai. this right now is just a idea of what i was wanting to do if i need something or need to do something different let me know. thanks james will be doin some more research and stuff like that. i do have this in the all motor forum but no luck there really. James
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What are you tuning this on?
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i was lookn at the Hondata s300 and thought that would be better imo. i will get a base tune then go from there to a dyno tune. im not lookn for a hp goal just want to do a reliable all motor setup. been lookn and the d17/d16 stroker too.
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If your gonna put all that money into the engine it would be kinda stupid not to do it 100% I would either get ur intake ported or get a skunk2...as for exhaust look into a better header. Like bisimoto they have some pretty good numbers from theirs... or maybe try and get a ebay bisi header for alittle cheaper...definently s300 and a dyno tune not tryin to rag on you... but if ur gettin that big of a cam it would only make sense to make sure its breathing good just my $.02
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Also if you don't spray it you don't need to worry about aftermarket pistons or rods... use stock rods and p29 pistons out of a jdm zc... u can get both off ebay very cheap... stock rods are perfect for dseries allmotor
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Sry to say this, but you will not break 160whp with that set-up. D series need to be swapped out, or boosted IMO to make decent power. There is nothing wrong with boosting a stock internal D16. I had a JRSC on my Y8 (methanol injected too) and ran it for 40k before swapping the motor. It was extremely fun to drive.

Edit - The y8 was swapped out for a H22, nothing was wrong with the y8 and I ended up selling it off to someone locally.
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Cvcrcr99 idk if u seen it but im not tryn to make a whp goal just want a fun d series daily.
Dumpedeg16 i know what ur sayn. i will look into p29 pistons. so far it seems like im on the right track tho dont it? i heard bisi is have alot of bad feedback so idk if i will get stuff from him now if thats the case. gunna do some more searching tonight after class and see if i cant find a better cam and stuff like that. thanks alot for the info so far guys. James
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With the p29s ull probably be alittle over 12:1 comp... Idk about bisi but I wouldn't buy their cam cuz they are pretty pricey id rather get a zex cam or crowler.. their header so far is the best dseries header you can get.... u can get p29s brand new from nippon pistons if you wanna try and get alittle more out of it. Maybe get your head ported but not polished
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Originally Posted by cvcrcr99
Sry to say this, but you will not break 160whp with that set-up. D series need to be swapped out, or boosted IMO to make decent power. There is nothing wrong with boosting a stock internal D16. I had a JRSC on my Y8 (methanol injected too) and ran it for 40k before swapping the motor. It was extremely fun to drive.

Edit - The y8 was swapped out for a H22, nothing was wrong with the y8 and I ended up selling it off to someone locally.
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A built N/A D series will still be slow.
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I don't see hate in my post. Where did I come out and attack him about this? Just trying to make sure he is aware that he will spend a good amount of money that could go into something else. You will most likely be on par with a B16 with that work and money he is describing. Ask me how I know

It is not hating if I have already been down that path.....

The money (IMO) could go into a GSR swap or something like that, boosting power, making the car more fun, while retaining OEM reliability.

OP, good luck with w/e path you choose. If you end up building the D series like you are mentioning, please let us know the final result of it all.
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how do you know?
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i will keep everyone updated on what i do with the motor. just want something to do different and simple first. around here alot of ppl have b series swaps and i just want to do a d series build. ill look at nippon pistons too and zex and crower cams. thanks again
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Different is not always better..people are swapping those engines out for a reason lol..

Personally, I would run low boost, but you seem to hard set on building your d.

Financially, it really doesn't make sense.
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What's so different about an all-motor D-series? People are doing it all the time. Check the All-Motor forum if you need questions answered or ideas/motivation. Not many on this forum are discovering anything new or breaking any new ground. Get over that. The words "Civic" and "different" are an oxymoron.
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well a buddy of mine had a d16a6 w/z6 head stage 2 comp cam, adj cam gear, edlebrock header, lightend flywheel, adj fpr, good clutch and was beatn mustangs and some turboed cars. his was in a 87 hf crx tho
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Originally Posted by Bense
how do you know?
i would also like to know.

oh, and nice to see you posting again Bense.
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well a buddy of mine had a d16a6 w/z6 head stage 2 comp cam, adj cam gear, edlebrock header, lightend flywheel, adj fpr, good clutch and was beatn mustangs and some turboed cars. his was in a 87 hf crx tho. i was happy with his build and it was the car to try and beat at the time. so im kinda wantn to do the same thing wit my car but do more upgrades with mine
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i would also like to know.

oh, and nice to see you posting again Bense.
LOL, because I have done it myself before. Figured me saying "ask me how I know" would have been rhetorical and the point wouldn't have had to be explained further.

Regardless, OP have fun. Let us know your numbers and the money spent on everything when you are done.
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good luck im a fan of all motor builds right now im running a d15b2 block bored 20 over z6 head port matched to a z6 im its peppy over stock
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Interested in seeing this build come together good luck OP.
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thanks to all that wants to c this done. gunna b awhile but wikl be done. ill keep u all updated
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Make sure you remove the power steering and air conditioning too. That's the key to being fast is removing 150 lbs of usable equipment to gain 10 hp. If that's not good enough take out your back seat and while your at it the passenger seat. And the radio, and the carpet, and go on a diet of ramen and water. Then you'll be quick as hell.

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i know everyone wants to do their own thing but seriously, you can swap in a stock ls with a b16 trans and it will be 100% reliable and run all over whatever you do to the d16. save yourself time and headaches and just swap it
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Wow haters I have a all motor sohc vtec and I love it chip that **** get a good clutch and flywheel and a short shift that will help you plant the power you do Make get it tuned y8 intake manifold can be found reasonable on eBay just a few ideas


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