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Old 01-02-2009, 11:49 PM
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tell me how this works out for you if you try it.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/do-yo...-tutorial.html

yes its from 8thcivic...lazy honda-tech people..

or

http://customlightz.com/?p=p_48&sNam...-honda-civics-[2006-]

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Originally Posted by Orochon
tell me how this works out for you if you try it.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/do-yo...-tutorial.html

yes its from 8thcivic...lazy honda-tech people..

or

http://customlightz.com/?p=p_48&sNam...-honda-civics-[2006-]
There ya go.
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i dont know what part of jersey your from, but im from jersey city right next to manhattan.......if your willing to drive to queens...there is a place in woodside called top speed performance.....they sell them for $105 if you go there to pick them up.....its not in the ghetto and is fairly easy to get to....i know they do ship, but the price will go up a little more.......i ve bought about 4 sets from them so far for both my cars and 2 of my friends and we have had no problems...they are direct plug n play in any color you want..with high/low beam...

heres some pics of the 6000k on my coupe



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Originally Posted by IneedBoostInTheCoupe
i dont know what part of jersey your from, but im from jersey city right next to manhattan.......if your willing to drive to queens...there is a place in woodside called top speed performance.....they sell them for $105 if you go there to pick them up.....its not in the ghetto and is fairly easy to get to....i know they do ship, but the price will go up a little more.......i ve bought about 4 sets from them so far for both my cars and 2 of my friends and we have had no problems...they are direct plug n play in any color you want..with high/low beam...

heres some pics of the 6000k on my coupe



Can you give me their number or their website? And are those 6000k Blue or White?
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Originally Posted by AlphaQup
2008fijibluesi,

Do you mind sharing pics of your PnP kit lighting up the road or even a wall for us to see how great it is? Only if you want to. I'd like to see what you are swearing by.
Sure. I lost my USB cord for my Cam, but as soon as I get a new one, there are literally a thousand pictures I need to download (including some for the 8th's rice thread, some for various DIYs I've done, and my PnPs).

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As for your "baller status" remark, not all people are who you perceive them to be. I've done a few retrofits myself and guess I'd fall into the category that takes time to do it right the first time. Not because I want to be "baller status".
True, but that is why I said most people buy retrofits for that reason. You are merely one of the exceptions to the rule.


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No matter how you argue it, PnP kits are only designed for one reason and its all for fashion rather than form. Why?... (beating on a dead horse a little here) ---> because the halogen reflectors/projectors were never designed to properly distribute the light emitted from a HID bulb.
Well, since some PnP kits can be used along with a projector/retro setup, your "only designed for one reason" BS means nothing.
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Can you give me their number or their website? And are those 6000k Blue or White?
there wesite is www.tspny.com .....the ones i had in those pics were the 6000k...they were pretty much white with a very light tint of blue...looked pretty much like the ones on cadillacs and bmw's.......the ones i have now are the 8000k,,,,,they're pretty much a mix of white and blue.........if i had the chance i would get the 6k ones again though

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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Well, since some PnP kits can be used along with a projector/retro setup, your "only designed for one reason" BS means nothing.
lol BS? You just said it yourself, "can be used along with a projector/retro setup". Yes, all D2S bulbs will fit into all OEM "HID" projectors, no matter if it's an aftermarket bulb or not. However, they will not fit into your OEM halogen housings nor OEM halogen projector housings since they were not designed to house a HID bulb. That is why PnP kits come with rebased HID bulbs to fit all specified halogen housings, such as yours. Now does that mean they'll be able to utilize all the light emitted from the rebased HID bulb? NO, although some halogen housings/projectors may do a better job than others. You still won't ever get close to any HID projector's output simply due to design. The End.
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Originally Posted by JdmcivicRR
Retrofits cost around $1,000 correct?
I can make u a set of TSX without ballasts for 650.00 shipped.
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i got the volt kit which is 6k its digital and it was from kbcarstuff
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Secondly, 6000k is whiter than 4300k, and it is also brighter. Contrary to belief, the higher the kelvin, the brighter something actually is.
That couldnt be farther from the truth. Opinions aside, there is a physical law, called Beer's Law that states that as you increase absorbancy, you decrease transmittance. In the case of HID's as you increase in color temperature (gaining blue) you are also increasing the amount of light that is absorbed, and therefore decreasing transmittance (the light seen). A 6000k light is not clear blue, contrary to what the chinese guy that designed your kit tells you.

You are again incorrect that stating that a bulb of higher kelvin rating is brighter. Increasing the color temperature (kelvin rating) DECREASES light. A 4300k HID bulb will produce about 3200lm (assuming you are using a OEM quality bulb). A 6000k HID bulb emmits somewhere just north of 2000lm, a difference of over 1000lm per side, roughly the difference in light that a standard halogen puts off. Since lumens are additive, by jumping from 4300k to 6000k, you are losing close to 2000lm of total output.
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I love it when everyone thinks the higher the Kelvin the brighter the light will be. All OEM HID bulbs are either 4200k or 4300k.
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figiblue civic no picture yet of you HIDs?...dont u have a camera phone??
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I got retros done and all in all I spent 700 for everything. I am very happy with them and like AlphaQup said I like to do it right the first time.

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anyone know where i can get a good HID kit...im not trying to go thru ebay...i live in sacramento ca...any help would be great
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"good" and "hid kit" generally dont go in the same sentance.
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yeah i know....but you know what i mean...i ment good price...cuz i findin kits for 100 bucks -200 bucks...but i dont trust ebay very much cuz i know a few people that got scamed...soo yeah...if anyone know where i can get some or know anybody selling a kit please letme know...lookin for the blue tint or the purple tint...but some say the purple tint isnt very bright....
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Originally Posted by chrisv92DA
yeah i know....but you know what i mean...i ment good price...cuz i findin kits for 100 bucks -200 bucks...but i dont trust ebay very much cuz i know a few people that got scamed...soo yeah...if anyone know where i can get some or know anybody selling a kit please letme know...lookin for the blue tint or the purple tint...but some say the purple tint isnt very bright....
check the post i put like 2 pages back...its a spot in queens, ny....i vouch for the...not scumbags....
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Besides, projectors on a Civic look a lot more rice than HIDs in a stock housing.
so true...look at the type r
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Ebay?? Do what you want with your car.. Dont let other opinions sway your vote.. Just be sure to adjust your lowbeams if you do get a plug and play kit.. You will need to lower the angle of the beam which wil help to reduce the glare put into oncoming traffic..

People will argue about HID kits on here all day if you bring them up. Do what you please with your car.. Customlightz car be weird looking to since civics dont come with projectors and thats what they use.. "shrugs shoulders" do what youwant...
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Your fact might be true if I hadn't driven another car, while someone drove my car behind me, and also passed in the opposite direction. I was **** about getting it just right, and probably adjusted it 20 or so times before I was happy with it. I have very very sensitive night eyes (some nights regular halogens on a Cherokee bother me), and my lights bothered me no more than TSX projectors.

A retrofit (or any projector for that matter) definitely does not illuminate the road any better than my setup does. The projector just provides a much straighter and cleaner cutoff. That is the only thing that I would desire from a retrofit setup, because frankly, I think that the retrofit looks hilarious on an 8th gen. 90% of people that get the retrofit are just buying it to say they "did it the right way" or to establish their "baller status". For the other 10% that have $1000 to blow on a setup that produces nominal gains for the money (compared to a well adjusted Pnp), more power to them.
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LOL....omg you fail at proving your point.

You'd think if you were trying to call me out and prove a point with a video, you'd pick one where the difference was night and day...but it wasn't. The illumination of the road is nearly identical, and the projector has more glare than the stock housing.
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That couldnt be farther from the truth. Opinions aside, there is a physical law, called Beer's Law that states that as you increase absorbancy, you decrease transmittance. In the case of HID's as you increase in color temperature (gaining blue) you are also increasing the amount of light that is absorbed, and therefore decreasing transmittance (the light seen). A 6000k light is not clear blue, contrary to what the chinese guy that designed your kit tells you.

You are again incorrect that stating that a bulb of higher kelvin rating is brighter. Increasing the color temperature (kelvin rating) DECREASES light. A 4300k HID bulb will produce about 3200lm (assuming you are using a OEM quality bulb). A 6000k HID bulb emmits somewhere just north of 2000lm, a difference of over 1000lm per side, roughly the difference in light that a standard halogen puts off. Since lumens are additive, by jumping from 4300k to 6000k, you are losing close to 2000lm of total output.
Since I've talked to the guy on the phone who makes my kits, I know he isn't Chinese. Your statement is both ignorant and incorrect. I feared it might be too blue for what I wanted, but as I stated, it is white. As I said, color temps will vary between every manufacturer.

Once again, wrong. The only thing that makes certain things appear less bright is the lighting that they are viewed in. The brighest thing in the solar system is estimated at 100 million kelvin which, even you can see is a higher number than 4300 kelvin. Explain it, because you can't.



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figiblue civic no picture yet of you HIDs?...dont u have a camera phone??
My camera phone says "camera error" when I try to go to it. I'll take a pic of that and upload when I find my camera cord, because you'll say I'm lying. Just be patient little boy. If you can't, look at the pics of many other people that have posted up pics of their PnP setup against a garage door, or down a street. Mine look similar to the nice, well adjusted ones.
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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
My camera phone says "camera error" when I try to go to it.
Must be too much glare haha. To be honest though, some H7 halogen projectors work alright (alright, no good) with PnP kits, but reflector buckets will just be awful all around.

PnPs can be spotted a mile away and just scream, "I'm a brokedick wannabe."
Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Secondly, 6000k is whiter than 4300k, and it is also brighter.
Negative on both arguments. 1.) 5000 is white and if my math skills serve me correctly then 4300 is closer than 6000 to it. 2.) 6000k is not necessarily brighter, get the lumen output specs on each bulb and then argue brightness. I'd be willing to bet that the OEM bulb has more lumens.

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Originally Posted by 2008fijibluesi
Since I've talked to the guy on the phone who makes my kits, I know he isn't Chinese. Your statement is both ignorant and incorrect. I feared it might be too blue for what I wanted, but as I stated, it is white. As I said, color temps will vary between every manufacturer.

Once again, wrong. The only thing that makes certain things appear less bright is the lighting that they are viewed in. The brighest thing in the solar system is estimated at 100 million kelvin which, even you can see is a higher number than 4300 kelvin. Explain it, because you can't.
Sure, I actually can explain it. In HID capsules, they are being driven by a ballast using 35 watts (in most automotive cases). At THAT WATTAGE, a 4300k light source puts off approx 3200lm. At that same wattage, a 6000k bulb puts off about 2000lm, and continues to DECREASE as you go to a higher Kelvin bulb. Its not a matter of opinion...3200 lm is brighter than 2000lm. While youre off stargazing at your 100mil K star, sure it might be brighter, but we are talking about with a 35watt powersource, not however many million mega-starpower units, or whatever the f they measure it in. seriously, do some research before you start calling people out on correct information.
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or whatever the f they measure it in.
The standard unit of measure is 1.21 giggawatts.


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