cmdr430

nice R

get rid of the **** on the hood

srt4mike

Looks great!!

FijiBlueFG2

It is 1hp different than the FA/FG, it still has 38hp or so over the ep3, but the ep3 is much lighter, allowing it to handle much better.

Whats Up DOHC

I feel like if u kicked that it would make the same sound as a kick ball

Rude Awakening

I thnk he means EP3 R.

DC2man

I like my FA5 better except for the dash and front end but still an awesome car!

pinoysi06

all you guys are crazy i watch a show on the ep3 and new type are racing pn t real track with professionals driving and the type handled way better and much faster

FijiBlueFG2

"The type R handled way better and much faster"

Which type r?

"Dude, I saw this show, and a bunch of Civics were racing, and the one Civic was totally faster than the other Civics man...it was sweet"

^---That's you.

I believe you're referring to Top Gear.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=22931331

K5^

FD2 > EP3 >>>> FN2.

George Knighton

In the EU, there are a couple of different ways of rating horsepower. Both are usually reported.

I had heard 201 UK-style HP, if that's worth anything.

It'd be even worse if we tried to sell them over here.

I don't mean to appear to directly contradict you, and I am sure that you know what you are talking about, but I am not sure you meant to completely discredit the fact that there are substantial cost savings involved with making a rear suspension like that instead of the usual more complicated Honda rear suspension.

I think that he meant to compare it to the EP3 CTR.

I am sure the FN2 CTR handles very well and I am sure that it is very fast.

Where you're going to prefer to have the EP3 CTR is on rougher tracks, or on a track where you will have to bounce over a gater for the fastest line.

The DC2 ITR is better than the EP3 CTR for this, but the EP3 CTR is better than the FN2 CTR for this.

Our cars have to be homologated, so let's face it, we just have to race whatever Honda gives us. But if we all still had a choice, we'd probably still prefer to be in a 250 HP DC2 ITR.

K5^

Horsepower ratings differ from region to region. I believe Europe runs off of the DIN, PS, kW, while the US uses the SAE method which yields lower than most other conventions out there.

TunerN00b

I did not mean to discredit it at all. I was simply ignoring it, as cost saving and "Type-R" do not belong in the same sentence imho.

Cost savings are very important to a manufacturer though.

Heck, strut based cars are both cheaper to produce and service, and have less moving parts to wear out and need replacement, than a double wishbone design. Its a win-win for the manufacturer and most customers. I imagine that the twist-beam / torsion-beam is even cheaper, and possibly more durable, than struts, making it even more of a win-win.

So I'll rephrase:
Suspensions designed for cargo space and cost reduction, do not a Type-R make.

George Knighton has the gift of good communication skills. If I expressed to someone what he did here, I would have ended up offending the other person.

K5^

Truth.

It is this same skill that can issue a cleverly disguise and deliver an insult without notice. That is why GK is the top dog.

bin_dizzle

congrats on the new ride

i-VTEC_DOHC

you're post is lacking proper grammar.
and what was the point of you quoting me?

FijiBlueFG2

lol @ Yoda...or do I mean... "Yoda, lol @"

K5^

lulz

AeroDesigns

i saw on Top Gear EP3 R VS new Type r and the Ep3 was much faster on the track...

TypeRMOBBiN209

i like it...if i lived in europe i'd mob it

TunerN00b

What was the point of quoting? To reiterate your points, which is why I bolded them, and then wrote that your important points were being overlooked by most. Sigh, even when I agree with people, I get chastised by them.

And while it is lacking technically correct modern grammar, the overall structure of "does not a [fill in blank] make", it is not uncommon. The original saying is "one swallow does not a summer make", if my memory serves.

Why are we discussing your reading comprehension failure, and not the car this thread is about?

K5^

Been there done that. Keep up yo.

2008fijibluesi

Speak (or type) in proper modern english. Otherwise, you look like a tool. /discussion

VT1500

Newest pic from the Nürburgring:

K5^

Who are you talking to? The op is from Germany, therefore his English may not be perfect. Can't give him **** for that.

FijiBlueFG2

Looks like a videogame.