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im trying to make my car a little faster what can i do to loose some of the weight for the lwast amount of money and what mods can i do to gain a little more power
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Re: weight reduction (theaccordone23)
strip everything you don't need. take out the power steering, and a/c. keep only the drivers seat in it. get lighter wheels.. do engine mods...
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Re: weight reduction (sony224422)
Originally Posted by Grandhustleman86
A few tips on blowing your motor for minor to no signifigant gains at all(Which in this case 200,xxx+ motor really shouldnt matter)....
1. drive around with under half tank of gas
2. take off hood+doors
3. take off air intake....just run straight intake manifold
4. take out back seats
5. run straight header
6. octane booster w/ 91+ octane
7. start the car and lose the battery....you wont need that....
8. drain oil....add 1 quart....its sure to be light weight now....with all these excess useless pounds shed....your not gonna kno what to do....
all these above tips are sure to let you go out with a bang...and maybe a ticket....so please do us all a favor and just take H-T's advice....he has to put his time in and make his car what it can be....and please dont do any of the above....
1. drive around with under half tank of gas
2. take off hood+doors
3. take off air intake....just run straight intake manifold
4. take out back seats
5. run straight header
6. octane booster w/ 91+ octane
7. start the car and lose the battery....you wont need that....
8. drain oil....add 1 quart....its sure to be light weight now....with all these excess useless pounds shed....your not gonna kno what to do....
all these above tips are sure to let you go out with a bang...and maybe a ticket....so please do us all a favor and just take H-T's advice....he has to put his time in and make his car what it can be....and please dont do any of the above....
lol....i posted this like forever ago....no offense but its just funny ....these cars are sure heavy man....your gonna need to lose alot of creature comforts to really feel any gains....but what i would suggest starting with the undercarriage....aftermarket springs/struts....drop the stock gas tank for a good sized fuelcell....possibly some 16x7 rota wheels with 205/40 r16 Dunlop GT Qualifier tires....a good wheel and tire combo will save considerable amounts of weight....the Dunlop GT Qualifier 205/40 r16 weighs in at 18LBS a piece!!!....Rota is well known for being a stickler for lightweight wheels that wont break the bank.....next I would look into the engine bay....
Originally Posted by sony224422
take out the power steering, and a/c.
interior....i would remove everything behind the front seats if i was going for weight reduction....but if your really serious....lose the carpet, passenger seat, remove seat trim, door sill/kickpanel trim, center console, radio, any speakers w/ wiring, door panels and the film too, remove the stock seatbelts, install some kind of safety approved harness' (Properly), remove what you can of the sound deadening material on the floorpan....as for the dash I've seen some pretty sick looking stuff....remove the stock dash and run one half the size from sheetmetal....easily done at a metal fabing/welding shop....prolly a momo wheel with with short hub.
as for the exterior....look to SEIBON for carbon accessories, hood, fenders, trunk, bumpers....also you can get some LEXAN cut for custom applications to replace your stock glass....it is pretty easy to make it look clean....a little sealant, a drill, and a pop rivet gun w/ rivets will get it done.
Well some idea's to get you thinking....but if anyone else has anything to add feel free....
One last thing dont get stupid with weight reduction....nothing is more important than your personal safety....do not remove parts like the bumper supports or seatbelts(without having approved safety harness' ready to install), seriously the Accord can be replaced you cannot....I know you understand !!!
Modified by Grandhustleman86 at 3:28 PM 12/27/2007
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Re: weight reduction (cb7tougeracer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7tougeracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say add more power first before you think about losing parts</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Seriously danjensen,
Let's do the math.
I remove ~200 lbs of crap from my car for absolutely free save for the 1-2 hours it takes me to do it.
AND/OR
Remove power steering (weight + strain on motor for pump) Remove AC (weight + strain) and free up existing HP.
You spend $400 on I/H/E and get 5hp gain.
Who's the smarter one?
Or, let's drop $3000 for the H22 swap and parts and only run 14/15's
Removing weight is a no brainer to increase acceleration, etc.
Let's do the math.
I remove ~200 lbs of crap from my car for absolutely free save for the 1-2 hours it takes me to do it.
AND/OR
Remove power steering (weight + strain on motor for pump) Remove AC (weight + strain) and free up existing HP.
You spend $400 on I/H/E and get 5hp gain.
Who's the smarter one?
Or, let's drop $3000 for the H22 swap and parts and only run 14/15's
Removing weight is a no brainer to increase acceleration, etc.
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Re: (fatboy1185)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fatboy1185 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">running 14's is a big difference from 16's</TD></TR></TABLE>
Obviously, I"m not a retard when it comes to it.
But for absolutely free and shaving off ~.5 secs I would guess from all weight reduction stuff that is a much better bang for the buck than $3000 for 1-2 seconds wouldn't you agree?
2 seconds tops / $3000
or
.5 seconds / free
Obviously, I"m not a retard when it comes to it.
But for absolutely free and shaving off ~.5 secs I would guess from all weight reduction stuff that is a much better bang for the buck than $3000 for 1-2 seconds wouldn't you agree?
2 seconds tops / $3000
or
.5 seconds / free
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alright man im not arguing with you that weight reduction is a great thing, cause it is. But why rip all that stuff out of a stock car. its gonna handle like poo, and be annoying to drive. and 200lbs will not shave half a second. 200lbs=2 tenths
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danjensen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright man im not arguing with you that weight reduction is a great thing, cause it is. But why rip all that stuff out of a stock car. its gonna handle like poo, and be annoying to drive. and 200lbs will not shave half a second. 200lbs=2 tenths</TD></TR></TABLE>
100% guesstimation on the times and weight on my part, as I'm sure all seats, sound deadening, AC, power steering, spare, ABS, etc is more than 200lbs
But if you read OP's statement
"what can i remove from the car to make it a little faster for the lowest amount of money"
$3000 for a h22 isn't cheap for a ~$3000 car
As a side note, I did the H22 swap with from what I've seen others locally it's a low 14 second car now. (no weight reduction)
100% guesstimation on the times and weight on my part, as I'm sure all seats, sound deadening, AC, power steering, spare, ABS, etc is more than 200lbs
But if you read OP's statement
"what can i remove from the car to make it a little faster for the lowest amount of money"
$3000 for a h22 isn't cheap for a ~$3000 car
As a side note, I did the H22 swap with from what I've seen others locally it's a low 14 second car now. (no weight reduction)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danjensen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> But why rip all that stuff out of a stock car. its gonna handle like poo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain how making a car LIGHTER will make it handle WORSE.
Please explain how making a car LIGHTER will make it handle WORSE.
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It's a stock car dumb dumb, its not gonna handle well no matter how much you rip out. Yes, it will be a little quicker once he has removed some stuff, but if he wants to autox or anything its gonna suck.
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Re: (danjensen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danjensen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's a stock car dumb dumb, its not gonna handle well no matter how much you rip out. Yes, it will be a little quicker once he has removed some stuff, but if he wants to autox or anything its gonna suck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
WRONG the car is slightly/hardly more agile. True competive auto-x wise the accords are no match still its a lot of fun. I can vouch a stock accord at auto-x heres mine:
BTW the purpose of auto-x is driver abilities and control not how the car handles
WRONG the car is slightly/hardly more agile. True competive auto-x wise the accords are no match still its a lot of fun. I can vouch a stock accord at auto-x heres mine:
BTW the purpose of auto-x is driver abilities and control not how the car handles
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Re: (danjensen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danjensen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> its gonna handle like poo</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bahahahaha! What makes you think it will handle worse? It will handle better because it will have less weight to move around...braking, acceleration, handling, gas milage, etc will all improve with less weight.
Bahahahaha! What makes you think it will handle worse? It will handle better because it will have less weight to move around...braking, acceleration, handling, gas milage, etc will all improve with less weight.
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Pretty sure it never said worse in that post. Its a stock car, its gonna handle junky no matter what you rip out. Like your boy charri said it will be HARDLY more agile.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hurleyint »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Charri »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
BTW the purpose of auto-x is driver abilities and control not how the car handles</TD></TR></TABLE>
WoW....Ah...can you say that again please..... I don't know what to say in regards to this comment!!! You have me at a loss for words..... If your car handles like a pile of shyte. Then why bother AutoX. I'm looking at the amount of body roll in your pic. If you where to tighten up your suspension a bit I guarantee you that you would go around the course faster. Driver abilities + a properly tuned suspension wins races. No mater what style of racing. Specially around corners! And the lighter you go the tighter your suspension should be. The stock spring rate is meant for a heavy car. Lighten it up and it will handle like pooh!
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BTW the purpose of auto-x is driver abilities and control not how the car handles</TD></TR></TABLE>
WoW....Ah...can you say that again please..... I don't know what to say in regards to this comment!!! You have me at a loss for words..... If your car handles like a pile of shyte. Then why bother AutoX. I'm looking at the amount of body roll in your pic. If you where to tighten up your suspension a bit I guarantee you that you would go around the course faster. Driver abilities + a properly tuned suspension wins races. No mater what style of racing. Specially around corners! And the lighter you go the tighter your suspension should be. The stock spring rate is meant for a heavy car. Lighten it up and it will handle like pooh!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuShiBoiiii »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cheapest weight reduction loose weight </TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, the cheapest for money to pounds saved is to not put fuel in it
Actually, the cheapest for money to pounds saved is to not put fuel in it