Turboed F22B1
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (DunReit)
4:1 fmu, and 550's, that might be a bit of an over kill, do you have any idea how high your rail pressures will be? plus have you changed the fuel system other than the pump? If you still have the stock hosing and/filter/fittings the injectors will never see the amount of fuel that walbro is capable of pumping out...stay tuned i have ordered part one of my fuel system yesterday lines and fittings this is what i have planned:
ordered:
25' 1/2" annealed aluminum fuel tubing
necessary -8AN fittings to end on the line
need:
fuel pump
rubber hose
socketless fitting to go between pump and hard line
in-line aeromotive fuel filter with -8AN fittings
~13" of -8AN line to run between filter and fuel rail
aem fuel rail (mainly because it can accept a -8/-6AN fittings especially for my fpr)
preassure doesnt do much except cause exceess heat, they key is to be able to support the proper cfm's/gpm's/lph's(whatever volumetric flow units you want to use) to be able to keep the motor properly fueled
good luck man, keep us posted
ordered:
25' 1/2" annealed aluminum fuel tubing
necessary -8AN fittings to end on the line
need:
fuel pump
rubber hose
socketless fitting to go between pump and hard line
in-line aeromotive fuel filter with -8AN fittings
~13" of -8AN line to run between filter and fuel rail
aem fuel rail (mainly because it can accept a -8/-6AN fittings especially for my fpr)
preassure doesnt do much except cause exceess heat, they key is to be able to support the proper cfm's/gpm's/lph's(whatever volumetric flow units you want to use) to be able to keep the motor properly fueled
good luck man, keep us posted
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (EvoAccord)
550's???? Way too big. Use 450s with the AFC Hack and you should run trouble free.
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (kazmans94cord)
So thats a valve cover from a 1st gen CL? As in 2.2CL?
no homeslice drives a CL y0! its the same engine tho.
no homeslice drives a CL y0! its the same engine tho.
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (01GSR)
Too much is better than not enough?? Ever heard of washing the cylinder walls?? It causes detonation just like being too lean. 550s can handle 22 psi easy, I doubt this guy will ever run this much boost on the f22. Go with 450s and the AFC Hack. Its easy and reliable.
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (EvoAccord)
Too much is better than not enough?? Ever heard of washing the cylinder walls?? It causes detonation just like being too lean. 550s can handle 22 psi easy, I doubt this guy will ever run this much boost on the f22. Go with 450s and the AFC Hack. Its easy and reliable.
with a fpr and afc you can pretty much run whatever you want to...
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (EvoAccord)
Too much is better than not enough?? Ever heard of washing the cylinder walls?? It causes detonation just like being too lean. 550s can handle 22 psi easy, I doubt this guy will ever run this much boost on the f22. Go with 450s and the AFC Hack. Its easy and reliable.
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (vtec2k2)
Too much is better than not enough?? Ever heard of washing the cylinder walls?? It causes detonation just like being too lean. 550s can handle 22 psi easy, I doubt this guy will ever run this much boost on the f22. Go with 450s and the AFC Hack. Its easy and reliable.
Let me see. Just because the fuel injectors are larger, you automatically assume that they will use more fuel. Larger injectors only inject as much fuel as the ECU tells them to, so he could run 750cc fuel injectors if he wanted to. Remember, the fuel injectors recieve a signal for how long they should open. If the ECU reads rich, then it will automatically tell the new injectors to open for shorter amounts of time. So bigger is better than too small in this case.
Let me see. Just because the fuel injectors are larger, you automatically assume that they will use more fuel. Larger injectors only inject as much fuel as the ECU tells them to, so he could run 750cc fuel injectors if he wanted to. Remember, the fuel injectors recieve a signal for how long they should open. If the ECU reads rich, then it will automatically tell the new injectors to open for shorter amounts of time. So bigger is better than too small in this case.
but
at WOT the ECU is in open loop mode meaning it doesn't use the inputs...
so then you would have to lower the base fuel pressure with a FPR...which is very easy to do...
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (SOHCArchangel)
4:1 fmu, and 550's, that might be a bit of an over kill, do you have any idea how high your rail pressures will be? "
Got the electric fuel pressure gauge in the glovebox to help me out.
[Modified by niedejb, 5:18 PM 6/12/2002]
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Re: Turboed F22B1 (niedejb)
4:1 fmu, and 550's, that might be a bit of an over kill, do you have any idea how high your rail pressures will be? "
They'll be where I want them to keep a good 12:1 a/f ratio throught the rpm band. I dropped the base pressure with the AEM to ~25psi. If the 4:1 gives me too much fuel all I have to do is pull the vac line off. The fmax injectors wont be used unless I cant get my fuel dialed in w/ the VAFC. Got the connectors disconnected for the time being (afraid of the unequal fuel distribution FMAX has been know for)
Got the electric fuel pressure gauge in the glovebox to help me out.
They'll be where I want them to keep a good 12:1 a/f ratio throught the rpm band. I dropped the base pressure with the AEM to ~25psi. If the 4:1 gives me too much fuel all I have to do is pull the vac line off. The fmax injectors wont be used unless I cant get my fuel dialed in w/ the VAFC. Got the connectors disconnected for the time being (afraid of the unequal fuel distribution FMAX has been know for)
Got the electric fuel pressure gauge in the glovebox to help me out.