teletekman

I recently had the rotors and pads changed about 2 months ago since the steering wheel was shaking violently when comming to a stop, usually from speeds of 45mph or more. I hadn't noticed this untill recenlty but when I start braking again from a speed similiar to before, the steering wheel shakes again. Not near as bad as before. It happens quite a bit braking on downhill drives. Both the rotors and pads are all Wagner which I was told was very good. Assuming the the rotors are good and the pads, is there anything else that could be a potential problem causing this? I was told that the tie rods and possibly the ball joints need to be replaced because while driving at high speeds, the steering wheel shakes a little.

When I have this done, I am also going to replace the struts up front since they have never been changed after about 140,000 miles.

Does any of this have any affect on the steering wheel shaking while braking? Other than OEM Honda, these are suppossed to be the next best braking parts so hopefully I did not get bad ones from the factory.

Thanks!

Ross 2.0

The rotors are overheating and warping due to the composition of the brake pads and probably the rotors.
You need to put Honda stuff back onto it. Wagner stuff is good on other cars (as well as other aftermarket brands) but not on Hondas. Sorry to see your money wasted.
Also how had do you brake? If you brake hard and often the rotors will build up and hold heat longer which deteriorates the brake system faster.
Unless you use this car to race on a frequent baisis or live in a mountainous area stock is always best.

zumiez007

Also, you may want to check out your wheels. One or more of them may be out of ballance. This would normally be felt more often, but it can become more noticable at high speeds. Just a thought.

accord-pro

try this........ test drive the car , at speeds where wheel was shaking.. but instead of using the brake pedal to slow it down , just use the e-brake ..it is a test to see if the rear drums ( rotors ) are warped,, if no shaking when using just the e-brake but shakes when using brake peadl , you got warped frt rotors .. take car back to shpop and have them warranty the rotors..
I have seen a few rotors cause what you are experiencing ( wagners- brembos _ ) i have never seen that happen with honda rotors ,,and even if you do use non honda rotors,, at least use honda pads..

P_Adams

If it's front rotors (again), you will most likely feel it exclusively in the steering wheel. It will 'grab' from side to side as the rotor's bad spot passes.
If it is rear brakes contributing to the effect, you'll most likely feel it in the seat of your pants.
An empty church parking lot (vacant most days) is a good place to determine all this.
Let the car roll along at idle and slowly apply the ebrake. If you've a warped rear drum, you will feel the car lightly jerk forwards and back as the rear brake grab and release. If you feel none of this, your brake problem is in the front...

Having them re-ground is an option, but I suspect the condition may re-occure.

One thing you should be aware of; you may be doing it to yourself. DO NOT allow anyone to tighten the wheels lug nits with an impact gun - use a torque wrench. Uneven lug nut torque will cause the rotors to warp.

If it is the front brakes, I'd suggest you entertain Brembo rotors for the next go-around, with a good set of ceramic pads.

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wingback44

its very probable that your front rotors are warped due to hard/excessive braking.
you are gonna have to change the rotors.

accord-pro

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One thing you should be aware of; you may be doing it to yourself. DO NOT allow anyone to tighten the wheels lug nits with an impact gun - use a torque wrench. Uneven lug nut torque will cause the rotors to warp.

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if they do use a impact gun ,make sure they have and use the torque tool for the impact gun..,,,

hondaracin24

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Whats wrong with an impact gun? As long as its ahas the correct torque setting it shouldnt be a problem. I would think adjusting it with a torque wrench would be worse because your going by feel rather than the amount of pressure that you should be putting on the lug nuts.

accord-pro

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Whats wrong with an impact gun? As long as its ahas the correct torque setting it shouldnt be a problem. I would think adjusting it with a torque wrench would be worse because your going by feel rather than the amount of pressure that you should be putting on the lug nuts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

most places .. do not set the gun properly, thye just crank on the trigger... it will eventually cause the rotors to warp a lot easier than if properly torqued...
That is why i said to use a wheel torque tool when you use the impact gun ..
I don't know if you are familiar with them or not , but they look like an extension with a 1/2 drive on one side and 19mm. on the other ,, it is pre adjusted to only go to the specific torque needed ,,when you use it , even if you keep on cranking on the impact gun, wheels nuts will not get any tighter ..
I would reccomend this to any techs out there ,,

But i do not undestand what you mean by saying that if you use a torque wrench you are going by feel /////////

Hell it is the best way to tighten any bolts or nuts to the proper settings ,,it just takes too long for the professional techs to use it every single time, especially on the lug nuts,, that is why,,the tool companies came out with the lug nut impact torque tool ..

this is what they look like

http://froogle.google.com/froo...hl=en

mattf22b1

i had the same problem and just got it fixed, the front caliper was too close to the rotor when the brake was not applied, apparently due to the rotor warping, when we took the wheel off the caliper was completely stuck the car was in neutral and we could not move the front left side, hopefully just one caliper ~ good luck

teletekman

Well before I had replaced these, the wheel was shaking quite heavily while braking which led me to believe the rotors were warped. I tried braking with the e-brake and it felt fine so I definatly know it's coming from the front. Once I replaced these with Wagner Pads and Rotors which I was told were the next best thing to OEM and alot cheapper, it went away. But after a few weeks it came back. I kind of wish I would have just forked the money to get OEM. I am wondering though if it might have damaged the calipers maybe since it was shaking pretty bad before. Although after I had replaced it the shaking went away. Why it came back after such a short time concerns me. The tires were tightned with a tire iron and not an impact. No air tools what so ever were used.

Could it be anything else maybe contributing to the rotors being warped again?

I would hate to fork out another couple hundred dollars on new pads and rotors again and it still come back with the same problem eventually.

accord-pro

get new rotors,, they should be under warranty , you should not have to pay any money,, perhaps it was a bad set of rotors,, I have seen it a few times with non honda rotors.

BLUE EH3

my too, it happens when i brake from 60+ speeds

lysergide

yes, your rotors are warped, youll have to take it to some place and have them do what they do, make em flat again. then your car will brakelike new.


yea im sure i sounded kinda like an idiot, but im high. so ya.