nossvtcontour

hey guys, i just have a couple quick questions about interchangable parts between honda accords?


first i want to know if a f23b1 head will bolt up to my f22b1 without and mods.


second i want to know if the intakes between the f22b1's and f22b2 are the same meaning upper and lower intakes manifolds.

third if the oil pans between the f22b1 and f22b2 are the same? thanks

nossvtcontour

no one?

notoriousB

>>>first i want to know if a f23b1 head will bolt up to my f22b1 without and mods.

there is no such thing as an F23B1

>>>second i want to know if the intakes between the f22b1's and f22b2 are the same meaning upper and lower intakes manifolds.

the intake manifold is one piece - there is no upper & lower intake manifold.

>>>third if the oil pans between the f22b1 and f22b2 are the same? thanks

yes, F22, F23, H22, and H23 oil pans are all the same

Ghostyman

I don't know the answers but in the future, you'll have better luck if your title is more like "Quick ?'s about swapping F22 parts" rather than just "quick ?s". More people will read it who might know the answer. Good luck with your engine work.

nossvtcontour

ok, let me rephrase my question about the head. My friend has a part from a 98 cl 2.3 L vtec ported and polished. I would like to know if that head would bolt up to my car with any modifiaction.


Second i know for a fact, that the intake manifold are two pieces becasue i just recetly took my upper off and replaced it with a port and polished one from the same car. I would like to know if the lower intake is the same so i can match it up to the upper.

and thaks you for infoing me about the oil pans all being the same

notoriousB

edit: god dammit wrong again. stupid hondaautomotiveparts.com


Modified by notoriousB at 8:52 AM 10/14/2005

pbink

upper and lower intake manny? I think you mean the throttle body that's connected to the intake manifold. I doubt they would match up, but I could be wrong.

ThagAnderson

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nossvtcontour &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Second I know for a fact that the intake manifolds are two pieces, becasue I just recently took my upper off and replaced it with a port and polished one from the same car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah the mannifold is two different parts. According to this diagram:

11 is intake manifold A (pn= 112923)
13 is intake manifold B (pn= 112926)


Here is the diagram for the '98 CL 2.3 VTEC:


Notice that part number 8 (the one you are asking about, correct?) is shaped differently than the one in the first illustration. This leads me to believe that if you wanted to use part number 8, you would also have to use part number 10 for it to work.

Almost everything from the F and H series motors is swappable, but, correct me if I'm wrong, I think what you are inquiring about would be too much work/money for very minimal power gains.

nossvtcontour

i guess you confused my question becasue i'm kinda confused myself about the subject. I'm pretty new to honda. I have had a honda accord 1995 ex 2.2 sohc vtec for about a year now. I am planning on doing some upgrades to get a little more power.

My friend has a 98 CL head 2.3 vtec head ported and polished. I just wanted to know if that head would bolt up to my 95 block without any modification meaning straight bolt up?


the other part of my question was about the intake manifolds. Now that we have established that the intake manifolds are two pieces. What i wanted to know was if the intake manifolds from the 94-97accord vtecs and non vtecs were the same meaning both the upper and lower intake manifolds? hope this clairfies everything&gt;?

pbink

that part on top is the throttle body (#13)...the part it bolts onto is the intake manifold (#11)

ThagAnderson

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pbink &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that part on top is the throttle body (#13)...the part it bolts onto is the intake manifold (#11)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is the link to the Honda intake manifold diagram. Notice part 13 is Intake maifold B.

Here is the throttle body diagram. Notice the upper intake manifold (part 13 from above) does not have a part number, and the throttle body is part #11.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nossvtcontour &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has a 98 CL head 2.3 vtec head ported and polished. I just wanted to know if that head would bolt up to my 95 block without any modification meaning straight bolt up?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bolt up without mods? Yes. No modding at all required? Maybe yes maybe no. I know the 98 CL is OBDII, but I'm not sure if that would have anything to do with the vtec or the rest of the head. Maybe someone can help me out here?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nossvtcontour &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What i wanted to know was if the intake manifolds from the 94-97accord vtecs and non vtecs were the same meaning both the upper and lower intake manifolds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The upper manifold (part B) is the same on both. The lower part of the intake manifold (manifold A) on the non vtec has a slightly different part number, but it is completely interchangeable with the vtec one.