Installing Mugen 4-2-1 headers in 98 accord
11-29-2004, 11:15 AM
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Re: Installing Mugen 4-2-1 headers in 98 accord (Bruce_Willis)
Mugen has a header for the accord? I did not know they even bothered with the F23. I am doubtful you have what you think. well, I have been wrong before.
ANyway, you will need a breaker bar possibly to separate the exhaust from the manifold. You will need a torque wrench to put on the new one to spec. a can of liquid wrench applied daily for about a week before the install will make the rusted bolts a snap and you will not need to torch them.
GOod luck.
ANyway, you will need a breaker bar possibly to separate the exhaust from the manifold. You will need a torque wrench to put on the new one to spec. a can of liquid wrench applied daily for about a week before the install will make the rusted bolts a snap and you will not need to torch them.
GOod luck.
11-29-2004, 12:07 PM
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They're off ebay so it could be something else. They were listed as Mugen but I checked the Kingsports site and there were not 98 accord headers.
I just hope they're decent and they fit.
I just hope they're decent and they fit.
11-29-2004, 04:25 PM
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what a waste of money.
1. Those are NOT mugen headers as mugen does not bother with the f23 application.
2. Adding an aftermarket header to your f23 will not net gains to justify purchase expense.
3. The stock EX manifold flows extremely well so i would consider throwing your money in the suspension pit if i were you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superslow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ANyway, you will need a breaker bar possibly to separate the exhaust from the manifold. You will need a torque wrench to put on the new one to spec. a can of liquid wrench applied daily for about a week before the install will make the rusted bolts a snap and you will not need to torch them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
-chris
1. Those are NOT mugen headers as mugen does not bother with the f23 application.
2. Adding an aftermarket header to your f23 will not net gains to justify purchase expense.
3. The stock EX manifold flows extremely well so i would consider throwing your money in the suspension pit if i were you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by superslow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ANyway, you will need a breaker bar possibly to separate the exhaust from the manifold. You will need a torque wrench to put on the new one to spec. a can of liquid wrench applied daily for about a week before the install will make the rusted bolts a snap and you will not need to torch them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
-chris
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11-29-2004, 04:44 PM
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1. Well my flex pipe is going anyway so it's not neccesarily a waste of money.
2. The fact that it's manufactured by 'Mugen' is not as important as the original question.
3. I am obviously new to tuning and thanks for your advice on where to put my money ($100) but we are talking about installing headers.
You can save your remarks for something relevant next time
2. The fact that it's manufactured by 'Mugen' is not as important as the original question.
3. I am obviously new to tuning and thanks for your advice on where to put my money ($100) but we are talking about installing headers.
You can save your remarks for something relevant next time
11-29-2004, 04:58 PM
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$100?? ....just remember...you get what you pay for.....
crappy headers are known to poorly seal and who knows what other problems might come of a cheapo. Can you back out of the auction?
were they advertised as mugen?
false advertising? not too late to back out!!
crappy headers are known to poorly seal and who knows what other problems might come of a cheapo. Can you back out of the auction?
were they advertised as mugen?
false advertising? not too late to back out!!
11-29-2004, 05:26 PM
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Actually Mugen's working with eBay to get rid of these knockoffs. Look for any description as 'mugen style'. IF there isnt one, inform the seller that you would like your bid retracted under false circumstances. If they refuse, contact SafeHarbor or whatnot and tell them that it's a fake product and you refuse to pay for it.
Just get a new flexpipe. They're not hard to get (www.kteller.com) and if you want to replace the whole thing you can just replace the bottom section with OEM parts.
Just get a new flexpipe. They're not hard to get (www.kteller.com) and if you want to replace the whole thing you can just replace the bottom section with OEM parts.
11-29-2004, 08:28 PM
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yeah, that's fake stuff.
just make sure you get a new metal gasket(the one that sandwich between your engine to header) from honda(if the one that came with the car's in bad shape) because the foil crap that came with those taiwanese special will leak.
use liquid gasket for the other end, it's the orange stuff in a tube you can find in autozone, kragen, etc
don't overtorque the stud, they are fairly weak
you dont need an air tool, unless you live near the bay area and got all the salt to your bolt.
just make sure you get a new metal gasket(the one that sandwich between your engine to header) from honda(if the one that came with the car's in bad shape) because the foil crap that came with those taiwanese special will leak.
use liquid gasket for the other end, it's the orange stuff in a tube you can find in autozone, kragen, etc
don't overtorque the stud, they are fairly weak
you dont need an air tool, unless you live near the bay area and got all the salt to your bolt.
11-30-2004, 09:48 AM
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They are already on the way. As long as they are good chrome headers I will install them. A friend of mine who is very experienced will probably tell me not to bother if they are ****.
Why do you think they will not have an any improvement on the EX stock manifold?
What is liquid gasket?
Why do you think they will not have an any improvement on the EX stock manifold?
What is liquid gasket?
11-30-2004, 12:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bruce_Willis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why do you think they will not have an any improvement on the EX stock manifold?
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the ex manifold flows quite well for it's intended application. It was just well made.
Why do you think they will not have an any improvement on the EX stock manifold?
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the ex manifold flows quite well for it's intended application. It was just well made.
11-30-2004, 01:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet noen of you have even dyno tested such a part and are jsut talking based on internet/HT "truths"</TD></TR></TABLE>
i bet just because something says MUGEN on it you eyes light up and you soil yourself
......dynoing it isnt what were talking about, everyone knows header will give limited power gains to an otherwise stock engine....were saying the Quality of these things makes DC look like theyre handmade by rolls royce
i bet just because something says MUGEN on it you eyes light up and you soil yourself
......dynoing it isnt what were talking about, everyone knows header will give limited power gains to an otherwise stock engine....were saying the Quality of these things makes DC look like theyre handmade by rolls royce
12-02-2004, 10:41 AM
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I just recieved the set and they look well made. I got a nice Mugen sticker with them too... whatever fake or not they look pretty diesel!
Let's hope everting fits.
Let's hope everting fits.
12-02-2004, 11:46 AM
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Re: Headers
I heard comptech's headers are real good. but a bit expensive.. 1200 or so? Ive got a 98 EX-V6 stock everything. Its either the comptechs or DC's for me and DC's are like 400. Which would be a better idea?
12-02-2004, 12:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sexynuts(.)(.) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the header on the ex model is the same as on the lx and dx...all 4-1</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope!
your wrong
nope!
your wrong
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sexynuts(.)(.) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the header on the ex model is the same as on the lx and dx...all 4-1</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF! You couldn't be more wrong. I don't believe it's 4-1 either.
WTF! You couldn't be more wrong. I don't believe it's 4-1 either.