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http://peswiki.com/index.php/D...itive

mmmm. it sounds interesting ,,

KillerElfboy

yes, but every car is diff, how much is acetone compared to the savings?

this seeemed a bit weird

Honda Accord Sedan 1992 - Currently testing on 160,000 miles, fresh oil change, 2 oz in 12 gallons, 320 miles on a normal tank


i drive a 92 and im sure it has a 17 gallon tank, one which gets a bit more than 320 miles

YeuEmMaiMai

for someone who is fairly intelligent...you should know that that stuff is BS. If it really could ge you better gas milage, it would be in the fuel already............

amckee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for someone who is fairly intelligent...you should know that that stuff is BS. If it really could ge you better gas milage, it would be in the fuel already............</TD></TR></TABLE>What in the world makes you think that the gas companies would want you to get better mileage?

YeuEmMaiMai

think about this for a second they can charge 30 cents more per gallon for gas that can get you 30% more milage for something that cost them maybe 5 cents for every 20 gallons to add............ The profits from that alone would be HUGE........


Modified by YeuEmMaiMai at 9:17 AM 4/11/2006

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for someone who is fairly intelligent...you should know that that stuff is BS. If it really could ge you better gas milage, it would be in the fuel already............</TD></TR></TABLE>

this has nothing to do with my intelligence....this stuff might be BS as you put it but till i read up more and know more about it i am not going to be close minded like you... at the moment .......I am not for it nor against it. i don't know how much truth there is to it,, what the cost is.. etc etc .. I was surfing around..
I found this article and i tought i would share it with you guys ..

YeuEmMaiMai

ahhaha i guess you are not as smart as I thought you were.........if it's too good to be true.........well you know the rest

P.S. quit trying to slam on me cause it ain't gonna work... If this stuff actually worked as advertised, it would already be in use.................time for you to use some logic and think for a change..........


http://www.kettering.edu/news/...m=406

jayLegend

i got 202,000 mi on my cord, jus got fresh new tuneup, and ive been running exactly 400 mi for a full tank/w engine rape lol

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhaha i guess you are not as smart as I thought you were.........if it's too good to be true.........well you know the rest

P.S. quit trying to slam on me cause it ain't gonna work... If this stuff actually worked as advertised, it would already be in use.................time for you to use some logic and think for a change..........</TD></TR></TABLE>

i am not trying to slam you ... Do you know anything about this stuff ?? have you read anything on it ?
If you have than you are more informed than i am and you can say it is BS..
But if you don't have a clue DO NOT be close minded and say it is BS.

did you read what i said... I don't know too much about this stuff to make an opinion yet..I guess i should have put a question mark at trhe end of the post
like.Improve your gas mileage ??? Is that better ??

like i told you this might be BS like you put it,, but till i know more about it ,, i am not for it nor against it.. at the same token i DO NOT want to be close minded and say it is BS EITHER ,,
LIKE I SAID ,,I FOUND THIS ARTICLE AND I TOUGHT I WOULD SHARE IT WITH YOU GUY..

92ehatch

this has been posted all over HT many times since i joined the site.

people say they will try it but never do.

its a nice theory, but someone has to try it and prove it to say that it works.

i have HEARD (dont know if its fact or not) that acetone makes it burn alot hotter and CAN damage your engine.

i for one, wont try it. i get 400 mi to the tank as well, and i rape my engine too

YeuEmMaiMai

read the link in my last post........

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thanks for the link.........

amckee

Alright, this one got my curiosity up so, I filled up yesterday evening and added 3oz of acetone to the tank. 10 miles into the tank and the acceleration was noticeably smoother with less pinging. I drive about 60 miles a day during the week and fill up about every 8 days. I will keep everyone posted on my results.

My car is a well maintained 92 EX 5 speed coupe with 242,000 miles. I consistently get 26.5 to 27 MPG and I check my mileage every time I fill up. My driving is mixed 2/3 country backroads and 1/3 city. I shift anywhere from 3 to 4000 RPM(usually 3K), but take it to 5000 once or twice a week when someone pisses me off. I am a fairly aggressive driver and am always looking for the pole position between lights.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amckee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, this one got my curiosity up so, I filled up yesterday evening and added 3oz of acetone to the tank. 10 miles into the tank and the acceleration was noticeably smoother with less pinging. I drive about 60 miles a day during the week and fill up about every 8 days. I will keep everyone posted on my results.

My car is a well maintained 92 EX 5 speed coupe with 242,000 miles. I consistently get 26.5 to 27 MPG and I check my mileage every time I fill up. My driving is mixed 2/3 country backroads and 1/3 city. I shift anywhere from 3 to 4000 RPM(usually 3K), but take it to 5000 once or twice a week when someone pisses me off. I am a fairly aggressive driver and am always looking for the pole position between lights.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please let me know the results.. I read the link that Yeu posted and it stated that it was a waste of time.. But as always there are the pros and cons ..
So at this point i do not know if it is true or not... Your input would clear a few things ..

amckee

Yeah, I read that link too. Then I did a search on acetone in fuels in general and found a write up by a guy that says he's been testing acetone in gas and diesel since the 50's and that he's convinced of it's benefits. By all accounts, too much acetone reduces mileage and all admit that various engines respond differently as far as the mileage increase is concerned. All seem to agree that hydrocarbon emissions are drastically reduced as well as pinging from predetination. I work at A&L Analytical Laboratories/ Environmental Testing and Consulting and I guarantee that my driving and my car are consistent enough to provide a reliable test bed for this experiment. I do not have any preconceived notions about acetone in fuel and I will remain objective. That article that Yeu posted was written by people that used an engine in a lab. I'm sorry, but that's not real life conditions. I doubt that they were reproducing the heat, humidity, rain, extreme cold, air density, and other conditions that factor in to a computers regulation of fuel and fire. Our cars do not run in controlled environments and neither will my experiment.

92ehatch

awesome to see someone testing it out

KillerElfboy

if the emissions are reduced, could this be a backdoor to getting through inspection with certain mods?

jmb667

My worry with this would be corrosion. Acetone tends to be pretty corrosive stuff (I use it for stripping paint off model airplanes that I build). Just my $0.02.

amckee

If something will hold gasoline, it will hold acetone. Acetone is an organic solvent. It carries no corrosive labels on the cases we receive at the lab. It's flammability is a 3 and it's reactivity is 0. It will eat PVC based plastics and polycarbonates and lexan, but all the materials in the fuel system will tolerate it with no problem. Especially given the fact that you are only using 2 oz. per 10 gallons of gas. Thats like .16 percent. I'm not a chemist, but I doubt that it is even acetone anymore once it is mixed. Remember, it's not the acetones effect on the motor, it's acetones effect on the gas.

I fly model airplanes too. I flew Pattern and helicopters back in the 80's, but now have returned to my roots and fly Controline 95% of the time. What do you fly?

Ross 2.0

Acetone will eat the rubber lines, gaskets and seals in your engine! Don't do it!!!

YeuEmMaiMai

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MooGoCow3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Acetone will eat the rubber lines, gaskets and seals in your engine! Don't do it!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

let tem do what they want...people are soooooo gullable these days looking for any myth to help them save gas.


And to the person that said the lab results are not to be trusted. you are full of it........a lab is an ideal way to test something since they can controll all of the variables so that they can get accurate reproducable results.....looks like someone needs to go back to school and learn how to properly do an experiment were all of the variables are controlled.............

amckee

Once again, If we were talking about running acetone as a fuel, it wouldn't be a good idea. What we are talking about is .16 percent acetone. It will do nothing to the engine at that level. There are probably many things added to gas that will dissolve some plastics and some rubbers at full strength. Do you understand how insignificant .16% is? How about if your company gave you a bonus of .16% ? If you made $50,000 a year, you would get a whopping $80.

Ross 2.0

Your right it is insignifigant. one sixteenth of a percent of acetone is going to do NOTHING to your engine or fuel mileage. It would be like puttign 89 octane in with one drop of jet fuel. It's not going to make a difference.
Despite the fact yes it will eat your seals and no quality gasoline will NOT eat any engine seals.

amckee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let tem do what they want...people are soooooo gullable these days looking for any myth to help them save gas.


And to the person that said the lab results are not to be trusted. you are full of it........a lab is an ideal way to test something since they can controll all of the variables so that they can get accurate reproducable results.....looks like someone needs to go back to school and learn how to properly do an experiment were all of the variables are controlled.............</TD></TR></TABLE>I work in a laboratory, you jackass. I am well aware of what constitutes a good analysis. I am also VERY WELL aware of chemical compatibilities. I design the apparatus that dispense and transfer solutions, acids, caustics, and solvents for all of the labs we own. I am neither gullable nor naive. Nothing bad will happen as a result of running acetone through my engine. If I don't get any better gas mileage, that's what I'll report here. For every report such as the one you posted, I can match you one that supports its use. I don't take anyones word for things such as this, so I will test it for myself. Your opinion is not based on any facts, it's based on something you read. Looks like someone needs to stick with taking his car to the dealer and leave the real mechanic work to people that know what they're doing from experience.

amckee

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MooGoCow3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your right it is insignifigant. one sixteenth of a percent of acetone is going to do NOTHING to your engine or fuel mileage. It would be like puttign 89 octane in with one drop of jet fuel. It's not going to make a difference.
Despite the fact yes it will eat your seals and no quality gasoline will NOT eat any engine seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>Can you read? Gasoline has many additives in it. These additives are probably in similar percentages to the acetone, yet they are significant. .16% acetone in gas will not eat any seals. Exactly which seals inside the motor will be soaking in this gas/acetone, by the way?