V4Acc0rd

I got the new 2004 Honda Accord, 2 door coupe EX. Its the 4cylinder. I just put an exhaust on it, I feel some performance, I took ma friends V6. But i was wondering if anyone got a link to purchase headers and pulleys for ma car online?

H2290

What is wrong with using the word my? For God's sake. Look through the current sponsors and see if they have A HEADER for your car. You only have one.

WishILivedInJapan

sorry abou that v4accord, some of the honda-tech members are PMS'ing. In all actuallity, he could call it headers, because there are four tubes, but anyhow, i got mine on ebay for really cheap. DC sports ones for about $260 with shippping.

SuperSlow

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Ummmm......

How many heads does your k24 have? Last time I checked it was not in the V configuration..

Get a clue.

Wait... I am remembering something....

MOVETOJAPAN...

if you are looking for a header and pulleys, check out the sponsors forum.

madd

DC Sports is your best bet...unless you want to shell some money out for a high dollar header. AEM power pulleys are pretty nice, or atleast from what ive read. i would leave the crank pulley alone though....changing that out has caused problems for several people (atleast with F/H's)

sj993

I think underdrive pulley's are a waste of money. What little performance I got out of it wasn't worth what I paid for them.

madd

more of a bling effect if you ask me...

H2290

WishILivedInJapan, I thought you had spread enough misinformation in this forum. You know nothing about Hondas. Please go away.

As far as pulleys there are some gains there but they are like any cheap mod, a little power but nothing big. Also, it is true the crank pulley is a bad idea as it can mess up the balance of the engine.

Al Czervik

Before you spend any more money on your car, i suggest you spend that money on taking an english class or two.

WishILivedInJapan

H2290, please stop posting wrong information. I think you need to leave. No, just kidding, i know we all make mistakes from time to time.
so yeah, please stop calling me out for 'misinformation'. If you have a different opinion, then state it as your opinion. This is my OPINION on underdrive crank pulleys. I've had mine for three months without a problem.

4) "Is my crank pulley a harmonic/torsional/vibration damper or a harmonic
balancer?"

People are getting their crank pulleys confused with the harmonic dampers found on some V6 / V8 engines. "Harmonic Balancer" is a term that is used loosely in the automotive industry. Technically, this type of device does not exist. The "balancer" part comes from engines that are externally balanced and have a counterweight cast into the damper, hence the merging of the two terms. None of the applications that we offer utilize a counterweight as part of the pulley as these engines are internally balanced.

The pulleys on most of the new import and smaller domestic engines have an elastomer (rubber ring) incorporated into the pulley that looks similar to a harmonic damper. The elastomer in the OEM pulley serves as an isolator, which is there to suppress natural vibration and noise from the engine itself, the A/C compressor, P/S pump, and alternator. This is what the manufacturers call NVH (Noise Vibration & Harshness) when referring to noticeable noise and vibration in the passenger compartment. It is important to note that in these applications, this elastomer is somewhat inadequate in size, as well as life span, to act as an effective torsional damper. If you look at the pulleys on some of the imports there is no rubber to be found at all. We have samples of these, mostly from Acura/Honda, the Nissan Altima, 1.8L Eclipse, 2.3L Fords, Chrysler 2.2L's, and 1.8L VW's, to mention a few. This is not to say that with our pulleys you will hear a ton of noise or feel more vibration from your engine compartment. Most who have installed and driven a vehicle with our pulleys will notice the engine actually feels smoother. This is a natural result of replacing the heavy steel crank pulley with a CNC-machined aluminum pulley. NVH is variable and unique to every car. NVH will increase with the installation of an aftermarket intake and/or exhaust, for example. Think of OEM intake systems in newer cars, they use baffles and resonators in the intake to quiet all the intake noise. Aftermarket intakes eliminate these resonators and create dramatic increases in engine noise from the throttle opening and closing. So to most tuners, certain types of NVH can make the driving experience more enjoyable.

The purpose of a traditional harmonic damper is to protect against crank failure from torsional movement. This is not necessary in most modern engines because of the many advances in engine design and materials. Factors such as stroke, displacement, inline, V configurations, power output, etc., do determine when and how these harmonics and torsional movements occur.

Again, there is a lot of internet hearsay about the pulleys. When engine problems occur, too often people are quick to blame the pulley first, rather than taking the time to look logically into why there was a problem. We hope that after reading this you will understand the crank pulleys better.

m0t0rhead

The biggest benefit of lightweight pulleys is less strain on the engine.

phoenixitc

good freaking grief people!!! Who gives a damn if the word used to describe the four-tube piece is header or headers!! It's a generic term for the same thing. I use the term headers since I'm used to using those things on V8 engines. Get over it!

Another issue with pulleys that has been discussed is the alternator pulley having a direct impact on the charging system.

If somebody wants to put pulleys on for bling sake, let the guy put them on! Christ!

And dude... ma is my unless yourin from Texas then it's ok but it's spelled mah

Before you go buying your header(s) please research the actual benefit. Some folks have stated that EX exhaust manifold(s) are pretty decent units. Also, why buy only header(s) unless you plan on doing the entire exhaust and also consider intake upgrades to help the exhaust upgrades.

Can we all just get along and stop being so freaking critical?

WishILivedInJapan

yeah, i agree with what phoenixitic said. As far as alternator pulleys, i've heard it might screw with voltage. However, unorthodox racing carries a an underdrive pulley that suppsedelly keeps the voltage at stock levels. Don't know too much about it except it doesn't 'underdrive' as much as some of the other pulleys they have. keep it real!

TOAB

oh shut up

phoenixitc

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Correct, however it's a kit with an overdriven alternator pulley to compensate. I've been considering it but haven't decided.

And who's TOAB telling to oh shut up??!!

WishILivedInJapan

my god what is your problem man?? are you just bored or something? why does everyone have to be so critical? i just don't understand. maybe we could just put this all behind us and forget about it, how's that?

phoenixitc

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He's having his "."

WishILivedInJapan

good freaking grief people!!! Who gives a damn if the word used to describe the four-tube piece is header or headers!!

join the club!

SuperSlow

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join the club! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously enough people do care about it. It is as annoying and inaccurate as if you were to pluralize everything else about your 04 k24 Accord... "I would like to replace my steeringwheels, my engines, my hoods, my heads, my clutches, my master cylinders, my fuel pumps...." No matter how you look at it, it is incorrect. And the more tree hugging you do to try to cover it up, the bigger a limp-wristed idiot you appear to be.

And on second thought, Don'tMoveToJapan

Cuz JapanDon'tWantYouEither,

TheyWishYouLiveElsewhere.

Beach Accord

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And on second thought, Don'tMoveToJapan

Cuz JapanDon'tWantYouEither,

TheyWishYouLiveElsewhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lols...... donts yous means japans?

******* pwnds

BETO736

LOL!!!
This is becoming very funny...Hey guys (trial users), this is the treatment you get in this highly technical forum. Don't get mad, sarcasm and criticism is part of the game.
Back to the real issue. I wouldn't get an underdrive pulley set to increase performance. Not worth it. Real racers don't have them.
Now for show, go ahead, spend all the money you have and more, get everything chromed, polished and painted. After all is your ride and your money and don't let anybody tell you what to do with them.
Now back to laughing........

WishILivedInJapan

Is superslow in reference to your car, or your head? I wasn't even the one who said it first, i'm not the one with the 04 accord dumbass. Learn to read. Oh snapppppp!! ******* pwnd!!!! oh by the way, it's really annoying to read 'pwnd' instead of pawned, i mean, that's highly inaccurate, some people might not know what I mean if i don't add the extra 'a' and 'e'. Thanks for the entertainment though moron.

-Bionic-

lol pwnd.

SuperSlow

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WishILivedInJapan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is superslow in reference to your car, or your head? I wasn't even the one who said it first, i'm not the one with the 04 accord dumbass. Learn to read. Oh snapppppp!! ******* pwnd!!!! oh by the way, it's really annoying to read 'pwnd' instead of pawned, i mean, that's highly inaccurate, some people might not know what I mean if i don't add the extra 'a' and 'e'. Thanks for the entertainment though moron. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, my bad. You own the 94 accord with the "V4" motor or is it boxer... which explains your headers...

SuperSlow is beyond your abilities. Found your portrait. Posted below.

WishILivedInJapan

what? what the hell was that? ......random. lol i can't believe you actually possess a picture like that/took the time to find one. But thanks though, i'm flattered.