DelSol-B18

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So I bought a 93 accord four door se but when it sits over night the next morning ill go to start it up well it will crank at least 5 times sputter then crank 2 more times and fire. All day it will be fine only in the morning after it sits for a while What could be my issue here? I just ordered a new fuel filter. Also no cels. Please help cause its annoying

TheMuffinMan

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What is your CCA rating on the battery? And when was it replaced?

GIZZ - EXV

After sitting over night, possible worn valve guides and valve stem seals allow oil to drip down past the valves and foul the plugs. It will do exactly what you are describing when you are describing.

DelSol-B18

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Battery is fine. worn valve guides? Maybe iacv? Or fuel filter?

brakedrum

That hard starting cold problem has always been the ignition module (ignitor) on my '93.

DelSol-B18

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Really! Because sometimes it will do that then die. Then I crank it again and it will fire

DelSol-B18

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Anyone else?

DelSol-B18

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DelSol-B18

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So on cold start up if I hold throttle down. It will fire fine. This has to be a fuel issue

brakedrum

If you only have to turn it over a few times with pedal to the floor before combustion begins, then it might be a fuel problem. Also, that test is only reliable if it works on the first time to try starting it in the morning. If you're having to sit there and let it crank and crank, then you're just overcoming the weak spark by slowly warming the system with the ongoing current. When the ignitor is weak, the same thing happens after repeated attempts to start. The current warms it a little until it can finally produce enough spark to fire up the engine. If you want to try a little experiment that might narrow it down to the ignitor, try keeping the distributor a little warmer on one of the really cold nights.

The following came from a post I made earlier this year:

A few years ago, I confirmed my ignitor was bad by keeping the bitterest air off of the distributor by simply wrapping a towel around it while it was still warm the night before. I wrapped it around the cap and the distributor itself. I stuffed the towel down in there so it really surrounded the distributor like a baby being put to bed. The next morning (brutal cold) the Honda started right up. Problems starting the next day when the towel was left off the night before. Apparently it only take a few temperature degrees to make all the difference when the ignitor is not up to spec. I put in a fresh ignitor and had no more trouble. I even started her up one morning when it was 0º outside.

Frankly, the ignition modules in these 4th and 5th generation Accords is the weak point in the whole ignition system. I even fried mine one other time with a few seconds of extremely hard acceleration. Overtaxed it and the engine would shut off randomly while driving, until I figured out what was wrong.

GhostAccord

Don't forget that in a Fuel injected car putting the peddle to the floor doesn't necessarily mean that it will add more gas. It will definitely add more air and drop the manifold vacuum, try adjusting your FITV and cleaning our your IACV and see if that does anything.

On some FI cars flooring it while trying to start it will actually cut the fuel... Just food for thought

I love that warm towel quote...makes me laugh every time I read it. To think that a warm towel would keep the distributor warm for 8-10 hours in below 0 temps. Try keeping a glass of water from freezing over night with a warm towel. However, I guess I shouldn't really knock it if it worked for that guy. I think it might have had more to do with keeping the frost or moisture/condensation out of the distributor and off the ignitor.

DelSol-B18

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So the ignition control module? And ill try cleaning the iacv and FITV. And report back

DelSol-B18

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Cleaner iacv and screwed down FITV seemed to fix issue ill report back tomorrow morning thanks fellas!

DelSol-B18

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Ok cleaning the iacv and FITV did not fix the issue

brakedrum

It worked for me, Ghost Accord, so laugh on. I didn't say the ignitor needs to be "warm" but just that it needs to be a tiny bit warmer than bone-cold that it would get without the little bit of protection that I applied. So, while others keep suggesting that people replace main relays in bone chilling cold, I'll keep on suggesting things that are more likely to be the culprit.

DelSol-B18

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It's below zero tonight ill see what she does in the morning and report back

curvenut

How did you solved your problem ?