GSR-REX

Hello All...
I was attempting to change my sister's brakes last night on her 91 accord and I noticed her rotors need replacing. (She let the pads get down to the backing plate and it ate that rotor for lunch!)
Anyhooo...As I read the shop manual, it said that I have to loosen the lower control arm ball-joint and remove the CV joint, then remove the rotor hub assembly!!! Is there an easier way to do this?! I have changed many a brake and rotor and this is, by FAR, the most idiotic thing I have ever seen!
Anybody have any experience with changing the rotors on a 91 accord?
Thanks in advance!

Stew Pidasso

This will tell you how to do it.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=223096

greensleeper

our beloved hub over rotor sacks another victim.

GSR-REX

So, instead of seperating the lower control arm joint and then removing the CV Joint, I'm supposed to use a slide hammer and bang that thing off there?? That's not what the shop manual says to do...I don't want to destroy anything.

I appreciate the help and all, but can anyone else verify this before I do it?

GSR-REX

Yes...I have been sacked! ...and it sucks!

greensleeper

buy new wheel bearings while you are at it. save yourself some grief. they may bust when hammering off but its a good opportunity to replace them while it's convenient.

Gennady

You can use a slide hammer or a big puller to get the hub off.

SOHCArchangel

sorry dude thats what it was designed to do: to be taken back to the dealer to get *** raped on parts and service


[Modified by SOHCArchangel, 10:00 AM 9/25/2002]

GSR-REX

Amen to that...I wish I could find the engineer that originally designed this setup.....He would NOT be happy to see me!

I read the above thread and I think I am going to stay the course and acquire a two-jaw joint puller and do it that way. "Slide-Hammer" way bothers me a little.
We'll see how it goes....

SOHCArchangel

just a word of advise, it will go alot easier when you unbolt the hub from the rotor first before you start banging away

oh and take the time to remove the 'heat sheilds' behind the rotor all they do is trap heat and allow you chew through pads/rotors much quicker


[Modified by SOHCArchangel, 10:15 AM 9/25/2002]

GSR-REX

I don't think I'm gonna try the Banging method...I'll feel better if I follow the shop manual directions
Thanks though.

SOHCArchangel

um, heh, that was in reference to using the slide hammer......

Gennady

Use a 3-arm puller.

Stew Pidasso

I had to take my knuckle assemblys off and have them pressed out at the shop. Many people have used this slide hammer technique successfully so I would suggest trying it first.

GSR-REX

Yeah...I just went and borrowed one from Autozone. I'm gonna try to do this tonight when I get home...wish me luck!

SOHCArchangel

just dont flip your lid when you see the bearing come apart in half, this is normal, when reinstalling bolt the rotor to the hub and bang back on until you get afew threads of the axle showing and put the axle nut on and torque down

hub bolts 18/19lb*ft
axle nut is 180 lb feet

you will need a 1/2" breaker bar, 36mm socket, new axle nuts, something to de-stake the axle nut, moly graphite grease, and when you break the axle nut loose have someone stand on the break pedal, i think it was measured once some 1000 lb*ft was necessary to break it loose? i cant remeber but that was the estimate. I hope your strong son, b/c its a fight even for me

GSR-REX

Thanks man..I really appreciate the help

I already have the axle nut off and everything else is ready to come off. I just got stuck last night when I realized (read the instructions, actually ) what had to happen to get this damn rotor off.

I've decided to use the two-jaw method and do it by the book. Once I get the whole Rotor/Hub assembly off of the car, am I still going to have to bang the chit out of it to get it to come apart? Any suggestions on that? Some people said to use a lead pipe and a big 'ol hammer.

Also, do I really need to buy NEW axle nuts..or can I just use the ones that I took off? They seem to be in good condition.

I am still absolutely stunned that it has taken this much effort to change these rotors!
Thanks again for the input! More is always welcome!

SOHCArchangel

you still realise what i mean by banging is the sound the slidehammer makes when your putting it in operation, right?

GSR-REX

Yeah...I understood what ya meant!

SOHCArchangel

w00t!

im not looking foreward to doing my rotors again, but ive done it so many times i know the drill, but seriously i hate spending so much time on something that should take no more than 20-30 minuites, that is why i will be doing the 1st gen odyssey conversion front and rear to get rid of this hub over rotor trash

greensleeper

what all do you need forthat conversion? just new hubs, bearings, rotors? are all the arms the same?

SOHCArchangel

dude its the same platform

front and rear hubs bearings, rear caliper bracket, i have the v6 fronts so the brakes in the front are covered for me, i might just need the brackets in the front just in case, oh and i forgot, a new set of wheels, the odyssey is 5-lug

greensleeper

I didn't know that?

You going for new, reman, or used stuff?

Approx cost? (just in parts)

Gennady

Why are you doing the rear? To match up the number of lugs? Do I smell 5th gen Prelude wheels in your future?

SOHCArchangel

crap im being molested with questions again

if i can get the hookup at honda ill go with new, but a lil bug in my cerebrum thinks to get some cnc billet lighweight hubs cut, but thats alot f cost, rotors will be new, just go to majestic and add the numbers up and you will see