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Old 11-22-2010, 08:28 AM
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Default '90 accord 2dr ex-r/rb25det frankenstine project plans

well my group of buddies here are deciding on building some sort of frankenstine eating drift machine

i have decided on the car to turn into rwd, and i always wondered how a '90 accord looked while drifting, so we bought a '90 accord shell and now were thinking of the motor

i wanted to use a f20c from the s2000 but another fourm site said to try a rb25det. now i know this being a Honda site, would dissagre with using the nissan power plant, but doing measurements in the engine bay and rear suspension, they're seems to be more room than expected to bolt up a rear end from a skyline or a s2k


-the motor in mind-

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...003280377.html

but i was wondering so if anyone would have any websites in mind where i could fine some legit high hp honda parts so i ca hopefully change my mind and buy the f20c

looking forward to a big write up of this build

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most guys here (including myself) are pretty skeptical of these RWD conversions, and for good reason.. 90% of the threads started on this topic are never even started, much less finished and running.

i'll through some things out there anyway..

so you're trying to decide between an iron block (heavy) turbo I6 from a different manufacturer (typically adds complication) or an all aluminum I4 (light, compact) with one of the highest VE of any naturally aspirated production engine? both are good motors, and both have their list of pros and cons, but i find it hard to believe you won't have trouble fitting the RB25DET under the short hood of the FWD Honda chassis.

but before i go any further... how about some pics of the intended chassis to calm the skeptics.
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I have no idea why you would want to spend $7000 on a motor for a car you're going to throw into walls..........

I would recommend reading through some of the Project logs of those who actually have done a RWD conversion (there's a Prelude and two Civics that immediately pop into mind) that have threads on HT.

I also would be looking into cheaper motors......
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well for starters, these are the plans of what our crew is attemping todo

and well, the only money of mine that is going to be spent is on the shell (already bought it for $550) and i plan on doing the wiring and motor mounts if we start

later going through the internet i found the blue-prints of a rb25det and (by math and custom motor mounts) should just squeez right in

while the only problem with this is the lenght of the drive shaft (comes out to be almost 3in too long to fit from trans to the diff.)

i will be posting some picks of the car they plan on using, if this project goes under-way

again, not my idea to make the accord a drifter, i wanted to make it into a b16 drag machine with all-motor power

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B16 drag motor also a silly idea................

H22A would be the better choice. I think you and your crew need to reevaluate everything before actually spending money. I also do not see why having "blue-prints" of a motor makes any difference. There are plenty of other cheaper RWD motors readily available. In fact you could probably purchase a 240SX that was running for <$2000 and use that.
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... In fact you could probably purchase a 240SX that was running for <$2000 and use that.
that thought crossed my mind as well. why not get an already RWD chassis and build it up for drift..?

i know you're 'crew' wants to see an Accord sideways... but i'm thinking the novelty would wear off pretty quickly.
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It would be cool but your missing out on way to much, first you need to go full standalone with a custom harness. Than you need to do a ton of fab work, your starting for by posting a motor for 7k which I normally pick up for under 2k. I am not trying to sound like a jerk but I have done a rwd swap, it's amazing but so expensive and honestly pretty tough. If you do it and you have any nissan questions I would be glad to help.
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I would tend to agree with the others that the "appeal" of this idea will wear out quickly if you are expecting this to go together without a ton of fabrication work. I'm sure you know that there is a good deal of work involved but seriously, there's A LOT of work AND money involved in a swap like this.

Don't get me wrong, the idea sounds interesting and I would like to see someone do this. However, you will need people in your crew that have a good deal of experience at fixing fabrication problems creatively AND properly.

If you don't have A LOT of free time in your future to work on this, I'd recommend setting your sites a bit lower for a first drift project (which is what it sounds like, if its not my apologies).

Another thing to consider about your engine preference is that the F20c doesn't create a lot of torque (especially at low rpms) compared to other motor options, which definitely helps with drifting. I love the F20c/F22c too, but you have to realize it's strengths and weaknesses.
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do not do the rb25. coming from a guy that put an rb25 into an s13.

get sr20 if you really want to. but liek everyone else said, this is like a daydreamers post.
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i said im out, and they seem to continue trying to go through motor ideas and stuff...so i said goodbye to them and the idea of doing it...thinking now of building my new f22b1 i just got....has anyone hear of Bishimoto before or are they a generic honda tuner? bc they offer abunch of f22 tuning parts
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i said im out, and they seem to continue trying to go through motor ideas and stuff...so i said goodbye to them and the idea of doing it...thinking now of building my new f22b1 i just got....has anyone hear of Bishimoto before or are they a generic honda tuner? bc they offer abunch of f22 tuning parts
Yeah... Bisimoto is arguably the biggest name in SOHC performance. Especially with the F-series.

Do some research around these forums, check out his site. You'll see.

HINT: He just finished a 700+ whp D-series wagovan AND turbo'd a CR-Z.
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ha yea i passed up a picture of the turbo cr-z, i dont care if its a hybrid or not, i'd drive that one haha

well they seem resonable on all there parts thanks to Gen5alive.com
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well they seem resonable on all there parts thanks to Gen5alive.com
If you are planning on dealing with Gen5alive, just be wary...

User experiences around here have not been pleasant to say the least.
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