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Old 05-04-2004, 11:23 AM
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I have a 91 Honda Accord and my friends have convinced me to completely swap out my accord engine and transmission for an h22a with auto transmission out of 92-96 prelude. I've talked to a few mechanics and they have spoken of mods that must be done in order to fit the engine in the bay and I was wondering if somebody knew all the mods that must be done? What parts do I keep from the accord and what parts do I use from the prelude?
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Default Re: 4th Generation Accord Engine Swap (Phat C)

try this...


Here it is, basic instructions for swapping an H22 motor into a 4th and 5th generation Accords.
What You Need(4th Gen.):

1. Stock Mounts
2. 93-95 Prelude Header (If using stock exhaust)
3. Stock Harness (Modified)
4. Accord Axles (5-speed of auto axles, whatever tranny your using)
5. Oil Pressure Sensor from F22 (Plug is different on H22 version)

Wiring(4th Gen.):

1. VTEC Solenoid: Pin A4
2. VTEC Pressure Switch: Pin D6
3. Knock Sensor: Pin D3
4. Secondary Intake Solenoid: Pin A17

What You Need(5th Gen.):

Same as above plus:
1. 92-95 Prelude Driver Side Mount. (Ground down to fit)

Wiring(5th Gen.):

Same as above plus:
1. Swap Pin A6 with Pin A11.

Instructions:

Evacuate the AC system prior to starting this swap. Have an experienced shop do this to prevent any freon from escaping into the environment. Remove the battery. Disconnect the power steering lines, radiator hoses, and front AC line. Remove the Radiator, the Power Steering Pump and the Alternator, and the AC compressor. Disconnect all the wiring plugs and label them if necessary. Remove the front wheels and disconnect the axles. Disconnect all the mounts. Now remove the engine. Make sure you have the engine crane on the motor before removing the motor mounts. (Duh!!)

Prepare the Prelude engine by replacing any worn parts such as the timing belt and water pump. This is easier now that the engine is out of the car. Transfer the Accord wiring harness to the prelude engine. Make sure you plug the same plugs into the same sensors on both engines. You will probably need to extend some wires like those for the alternator part of the harness. If the Prelude engine came with a harness, snip the plugs off of it for the VTEC Solenoid, VTEC Pressure switch and Knock Sensor. These are the wires you will be adding. Attach the Accord half shaft at this point. If the engine has a Prelude half shaft remove it and use the Accord one. The Prelude one will not work. Remove the Front, Rear, and Driver side mounts from the Prelude engine. Place the Front, Rear, and Drivers mount from the Accord engine onto the Prelude engine. For the transmission, use the mount that corresponds to the tranny you are using.

Now you are almost ready to drop the engine in, but first you must prepare the engine bay. First off, swap out the power steering line from the Prelude one. Next, run three wires through the firewall to correspond to the wires that you are adding for the VTEC system. Run four wires through the firewall if your car is an LX or DX because you are going to be missing one in the distributor. I am not sure which wire it is exactly, but I know the LX and DX are missing the one wire. Add two more wires if you are converting from Automatic to Manual for the reverse sensor in the transmission.

If you are doing a automatic to manual swap this will be the point where you will do this. Unplug and remove the shifter and all it's components from the inside of the car. Replace it with the 5 Speed shifter assembly. It should bolt right in using the same bolt holes. Now remove the brake pedal assembly and replace it with the 5 speed brake pedal. Next remove the two bolts holding the cover plate that covers the holes for the clutch master cylinder and pedal assembly. Put the clutch master cylinder and pedal assembly together through the holes in the firewall. Next run the clutch hydraulic line from the clutch master cylinder along the firewall and the passenger side frame rail to the clutch dampener assembly. You will have to drill and tap holes to mount the dampener assembly.

At this point you can drop the motor right into the car using the four mounts. Install the appropriate axles to the transmission and hub. Connect the wires that you added as well as the other harness plugs. Attach the new AC line, power steering lines, Clutch line from the dampener to the transmission, and radiator lines. Attach the shifter cables at this point. run them over the power steering rack or else it will be too short and won't reach the shifter inside the car. Plug the ECU into the factory harness and wire up the VTEC wire to the appropriate pin outs. This is where the Chiltons or Hayes manual comes in handy.

If you converted from automatic to manual, you will have to wire up a starter relay, jump the shifter lock wire, and jump the key lock wire. You will also need to attach the reverse sensor leads to the reverse lights in the shifter wiring harness. These are all in the plugs that you removed from the Automatic shifter assembly. You will also need to switch a few wires around if you plan to use your Cruise Control. It's all in the wiring diagrams in the repair manuals. Don't worry about the automatic control unit that is next to the ECU. You can just unplug it and remove it. You don't need it anymore for the manual transmission.


If your using a 97+ H22 and are putting it into an OBD1 Accord (90-95), you are going to need:

1. OBD1 Injectors
2. OBD1 ECU
3. OBD1 Distributor

Here's the ECU Pinouts:
OBD 0


Pinout '88 HF/Si '90-1 DX (Std.) '90-1 HF/Si '89-92 EF8/9 SiR
A1 No.1 INJ Aux INJ w/A3 No.1 INJ No.1 INJ
A2 GRD w/A4 to Main Relay GRD w/A4 to Main Relay GRD w/A4 to Main Relay GRD w/A4 to Main Relay
A3 No.2 INJ Aux INJ w/A1 No.2 INJ No.2 INJ
A4 GRD w/A2 to Main Relay GRD w/A2 to Main Relay GRD w/A2 to Main Relay GRD w/A2 to Main Relay
A5 No.3 INJ Main INJ w/A7 No.3 INJ No.3 INJ
A6 Purge Cut-Off Solenoid Valve Purge Cut-Off Solenoid Valve Purge Cut-Off Solenoid Valve (HF Only) Purge Cut-Off Solenoid Valve
A7 No.4 INJ Main INJ w/A5 No.4 INJ No.4 INJ
A8 Lock-up Control Solenoid Valve Lock-up Control Solenoid Valve Lock-up Control Solenoid Valve Spool (VTEC) Solenoid Valve
A9 - - - -
A10 - EGR Valve (CA A/T Only) EGR Valve (HF Only) Pressure Regulator Cut-Off Solenoid Valve
A11 EACV w/A17 EACV w/A17 EACV w/A17 EACV
A12 Main Relay w/A14 Main Relay w/A14 Main Relay w/A14 Main Relay w/A14
A13 Main Relay w/A15 Main Relay w/A15 Main Relay w/A15 Main Relay w/A15
A14 Main Relay w/A12 Main Relay w/A12 Main Relay w/A12 Main Relay w/A12
A15 Main Relay w/A13 Main Relay w/A13 Main Relay w/A13 Main Relay w/A13
A16 GRD w/A18 GRD w/A18 GRD w/A18 GRD w/A18
A17 EACV w/A11 - - -
A18 GRD w/A16 GRD w/A16 GRD w/A16 GRD w/A16
B1 Hazard Fuse w/Brake Switch Hazard Fuse w/Brake Switch - Hazard Fuse w/Brake Switch
B2 Tandem Valve Control Solenoid Valve Tandem Valve Control Solenoid Valve - -
B3 A/C Clutch Relay A/C Clutch Relay Fast Idle Valve A/C Clutch Relay
B4 Radiator Fan Relay Radiator Fan Relay Radiator Fan Relay -
B5 Alternator Alternator Alternator Oil Pressure Switch
B6 Check Engine Light Check Engine Light Check Engine Light Check Engine Light(10A)
B7 Shift Position Sensor (A/T Only) Shift Position Sensor (A/T Only) A/C Switch w/B8 -
B8 A/C Switch A/C Switch A/C Switch w/B7 A/C Switch
B9 - - - Brake Switch
B10 - - Crank Angle Sensor Crank Angle Sensor
B11 Shift Position Sensor (AT Only) Shift Position Sensor (AT Only) Clutch Switch (HF Only) Rear Defogger Switch
B12 - - Crank Angle Sensor Crank Angle Sensor
B13 No.2 Fuse (10A) No.2 Fuse (10A) No.2 Fuse (10A) No.2 Fuse (10A)
B14 Alternator Alternator Alternator Alternator
B15 Igniter Unit w/B17 Igniter Unit w/B17 Igniter Unit w/B17 Igniter Unit w/B17
B16 Speed Sensor Speed Sensor Speed Sensor Speed Sensor (Electrical)
B17 Igniter Unit w/B15 Igniter Unit w/B15 Igniter Unit w/B15 Igniter Unit w/B15
B18 - - - -
B19 ELD ELD ELD Knock Sensor
B20 Ign. Timing Adj. Connector Ign. Timing Adj. Connector Ign. Timing Adj. Connector Ign. Timing Adj. Connector
C1 Crank Angle Sensor Crank Angle Sensor Cylinder Position Sensor Cylinder Position Sensor
C2 Crank Angle Sensor Crank Angle Sensor Cylinder Position Sensor Cylinder Position Sensor
C3 TDC Sensor TDC Sensor TDC Sensor TDC Sensor
C4 TDC Sensor TDC Sensor TDC Sensor TDC Sensor
C5 TA Sensor TA Sensor TA Sensor TA Sensor
C6 TW Sensor TW Sensor TW Sensor TW Sensor
C7 Throttle Angle Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor
C8 - EGR Valve Lift Sensor (CA A/T Only) - O2 Sensor B
C9 PA Sensor PA Sensor PA Sensor P/S oil switch
C10 Brake Switch Brake Switch Brake and Reverse Light Switch (HF Only) Brake Switch
C11 MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor
C12 PA Sensor PA Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor
C13 PA Sensor PA Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor Throttle Angle Sensor
C14 MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor
C15 MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor MAP Sensor
C16 O2 Sensor A O2 Sensor A O2 Sensor A O2 Sensor A

OBD 1 and 2


OBD2a OBD2b Function OBD1 Color Notes
A01 B05 Injector 4 A02 Yellow
A02 B04 Injector 3 A05 Light Blue
A03 B03 Injector 2 A03 Red
A04 B11 Injector 1 A01 Brown
A05 A08 SO2H No connection on OBD1
A06 C01 PO2H A06 Orange/black
A08 B12 VTS A04 Orange/White
A09 B20 LG1 A26 Black/Red
A10 B02 PG1 A23 Black
A11 B01 IGP1 A25 Yellow/Black
A12 B23 IACV A09 Green/White
A15 A06 PCS A20 Red
A16 A16 FLR A07 Green/Yellow
A17 A17 ACC A15 Black/Red
A18 A18 MIL A13 Green/Orange
A19 A02 ALTC A16 White/Yellow No connection on D16Y8 P2Nb
A20 B13 ICM A21 Red/Green
A22 B22 LG2 B02 Brown
A23 B10 PG2 A24 Black
A24 B09 ICP2 B01 Yellow Black
A27 A20 FANC A12 Yellow/Green
C01 C31 CKFP No connection on OBD1
C02 C08 CKPP B15 Blue/Green
C03 C20 TDCP B13 Orange/Blue
C04 C29 CYPP B11 Orange
C05 A27 ACS B05 Blue/Red
C06 A24 STS B09 Blue/White
C07 A10 SCS D04 Brown
C10 B21 VBU D01 White/Blue
C11 C22 CKFM No connection on OBD1
C12 C09 CKPM B16 Blue/Yellow
C13 C21 TDCM B14 White/Blue
C14 C30 CYPM B12 White
C15 C10 VTM D06 Orange/Green Connected to VTS on OBD2a
C16 A26 PSW B08 Brown/Red
C17 C05 ALTF D09 Pink No connection on D16Y8 P2Nb
C18 C23 VSS B10 Yellow/Blue
D01 C27 TPS D11 Pink/Black
D02 C26 ECT D13 Red/White
D03 C17 MAP D17 Pink/White
D04 C19 VCC1 D19 Yellow/Green
D05 A32 BKSM D02 Greem/White
D06 C03 KS D03 Red/Green No connection on P08, P28
D07 C16 PO2S D14 White
D08 C25 IAT D15
D10 C28 VCC2 D20 Yellow/White
D11 C18 SG2 D22 Green/White
D12 C07 SG1 D21 Green/Blue
D14 A23 SO2S No connection on OBD1
D16 A30 EL D10 Green/Red No connection on D16Y8 P2Nb


Here's a website that has a list of ECU's:
http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...29826

Same site with list of Honda engines:
http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...29825

A few sites to purchase items that deal with swaps:
http://www.totaljdm.com/
http://hasport.com/
http://www.topendmotorsports.com

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Default Re: 4th Generation Accord Engine Swap (baGged93aCcord)

You beat me too it.
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Default Re: 4th Generation Accord Engine Swap (01accordv6)

hahahah

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Default Re: 4th Generation Accord Engine Swap (baGged93aCcord)

Wow, thanks for the information, but there is one problem. Those ECU pinouts make zero sense to me. Are they just the plug numbers or what? And do I have to change all of them?

Thanks
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haha you make it seem so easy...A warning to the average DIYer, like myself. I havent had any more headaches than when i was doing this swap. If you dont have patience (and a good neighborhood shop to help you out when problems arise) this is probably not the swap for you.
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Throwing in a hot-rod H22 sounds like fun. I don't have the patience and have read too many threads on people F'n up their cars with lousy wiring that I'll be sticking with my F22 for a while.

I'm not against an H22, but I like my non-vtec engine (it keeps me out of trouble).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by propwdialogue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha you make it seem so easy...A warning to the average DIYer, like myself. I havent had any more headaches than when i was doing this swap. If you dont have patience (and a good neighborhood shop to help you out when problems arise) this is probably not the swap for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: 4th Generation Accord Engine Swap (baGged93aCcord)

That looks familiar Bagged. Where did you get that from? And who wrote that fine piece of work?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YZF_R1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks familiar Bagged. Where did you get that from? And who wrote that fine piece of work? </TD></TR></TABLE>

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