tchubs2K

So my car needs a new motor due to spinning a bearing last year and spring is just around the corner so I am itching to get things rolling.
Tossed up between another JDM ITR motor (expensive, reliable, no dyno needed) or experiment and build a B20vtec motor
(more affordable, all new parts and necessary precautions taken, dyno tuned etc.) while still being a couple thousand less in the end.


Looking to hear some opinions or experiences with b20vtec. I know most will probably say just go ITR or a different engine...

Casey

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Do a JDM gsr and put in some ITR cams and an aftermarket ITR style intake manifold if you want an oem longblock. Youll come out a bit less and be within a few hp of a JDM R motor

Id still go with a b20 vtec if youre looking to make some power. Its not hard to build one that will walk all over a 1.8

Brice.Hayden

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Or you can get an LS block for cheap and turbo it and walk all over an R block.

Casey

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cant beat a properly sized (not too huge) turbo car. Unless this is a tracked car, then it can be more work than its worth

tchubs2K

Interesting... thanks for the input. I'll have to get a quote from hmotors for a jdm gsr. I was quoted $2550 shipped for a stripped down ITR long block, considering I already have the complete swap, I need nothing else besides the actual engine.

Priced out for the JDM ITR with all parts and personal needs is well over $4000 for me

B20vtec swap priced out is around $2700~ for me. This includes new jdm b20b from local engine depot, dyno, install, and a plethora of new parts. I have a GSR head already that is tapped including the sandwich plate and all. Thought about using my ITR head from the blown motor since it has Toda valvetrain, Toda cam gears and new ITR cams. Weary on tapping it and separating it from its matching block though. I've been trying to sell it but at the point where I might just hang onto it for parts or a possible full rebuild in the distant future.

My budget is $3000 to make things clear. I will not put an engine in my car without replacing everything necessary, e.g. timing belt, water pump, gaskets, you name it lol

tchubs2K

Not much of a turbo guy and I would like to track the car. It is pretty much set up for it already just no seat time. Plan was to go for the first time last year but engine blew lol

Brice.Hayden

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Yeah I'm not a turbo guy either. I prefer a well built NA motor

Casey

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Id just stick with a JDM GSR then. Throw an ITR style intake manifold on and whenever you have extra funds do the cams. The most fun I ever had with a car that was NA was a JDM GSR with Toda B's in a 92 CX.

The only thing worth the extra $ on a 98 spec R swap is the header and the transmission which can be bought separate of course.

tchubs2K

Called up Hmotors and unfortunately they don't sell stripped down GSR motors so for one shipped to me would cost the same as a stripped down JDM ITR, so that option doesn't suit my needs. Seems out of the question now unless anyone knows of another reputable importer as competitive as them, price and quality wise? Bummed, was into that idea.

Casey

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no local usdm or jdm gsr for sale?

tchubs2K

I'm sure I could find one but it'd be beat to **** and high mileage was offered a JDM b16b from a friend with 20k miles on it for a decent price but not a fan of b16s especially after owning a b18cr. Being picky and having a budget/timeline is my downfall at the moment

Casey

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Yeah b16b is cool but it's still 1.6 liters of no tq

Brice.Hayden

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It's why I'm about that b17 lyfe.

Casey

iTrader: (5)

Just as disappointing doe

Brice.Hayden

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Not really. I've had b16, us b18c, h22, f20, k24.

This built b17 is plenty strong and sticks with stock JDM ITR motors.

EG BEAST

I seriously doubt it.

Brice.Hayden

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You can ask @tenedor sports

But since you know my motor and my abilities, I'm sure you're right.

13173

So a B17 is plenty strong? I guess so strong that Honda only made that engine for a few years it was so strong.

tchubs2K

I don't see what to argue about? Stock is obviously questionable but Brice explained it is built

Brice.Hayden

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Yeah but it wasn't bored out with 11:1 compression Pistons with a built head and cams.

Stock compression was an anemic 9:1.

But solid analysis.

EG BEAST

Yea i remember my first "built motor"

tchubs2K

I'd say that's a solid amount of work to definitely hang with an itr...

Brice.Hayden

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Who said it was my first built motor, Jordan?

WeakSi

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Chef Andre

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Lol!!!! You guys make me laugh with your B Series non sense.