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Old 06-03-2011, 06:00 PM
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^^ Holy crap $1.08 for a pack of cigs! Hehe...

What are gas prices like were you guys are from? I just filled up today, $1.47 /L which is $5.88 /gallon (CDN $) for 94 octane.
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^^ Holy crap $1.08 for a pack of cigs! Hehe...

What are gas prices like were you guys are from? I just filled up today, $1.47 /L which is $5.88 /gallon (CDN $) for 94 octane.
It's about 3.73 for regular here in Va Beach
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Originally Posted by siblues
I think the ITR has the best response for an oem suspension.It seems to have the perfect balance of ride quality and performance.

Blair dont even talk about showing your age I remember when a pack of cigarettes were 1.80 LOL
I guess taxes were higher for you. Here in GA I could get cigs for $1.60 back in 1995. Thank God I quit years ago.

I filled up the other day $3.66/gal. I think 93 octane is going for 3.95 now.

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I've had tons of different suspension setups on my EM1. Even tried out my stock S2000 shocks that had been collecting webs in the garage. Way way way too much damping for the spring/weight of the rear of the EM1 lol.
Wait...you really did that?! I switched out my friends S2K suspension a few months ago and thought about seeing if his suspension would fit mine. Did you use both the strut and spring or just try the springs?

I was just wondering if the springs would work (a really nice ride height) on my koni's so I could sell the GC springs/sleeve setup. Kind of like using ITR springs, but S2k instead.
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Yup those were the good ole days lol.Cigarettes are way over 8 dollars a pack here now.Economy and taxation is nuts right now.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:42 PM
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Wow I can't even remember the days when gas was that cheap here lol.
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Yup those were the good ole days lol.Cigarettes are way over 8 dollars a pack here now.Economy and taxation is nuts right now.
I bought a pack of Marlbs in Portland OR for $4.95 no tax!
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Wait...you really did that?! I switched out my friends S2K suspension a few months ago and thought about seeing if his suspension would fit mine. Did you use both the strut and spring or just try the springs?

I was just wondering if the springs would work (a really nice ride height) on my koni's so I could sell the GC springs/sleeve setup. Kind of like using ITR springs, but S2k instead.
The rear is the only part that I actually did up. The front S2000 shocks won't work on an EM1.


Stock S2000 springs will not work on civic shocks. The spring seat is too big. You have to use S2000 shocks. You could POSSIBLY use civic Koni yellows with S2000 koni yellow spring cups. But I'm not sure if the diameter of Koni yellows is the same for S2000s as it is for civics.

Front S2000 shocks won't fit the EM1 chassis. So you'd have to rely on the Koni trick for this.

S2000s come with pretty nice spring rates and stuff.....but if you were going that far, what is the point? lol. You could just use custom rate ground controls for way less hassle if you already have Konis.

Here's a few pics of how it worked out.




Side to side comparison of how similar the shocks are (tokico quality has really gone down. all the paint flaked off the shock within a few weeks. That RUSTED *** shock is only like 11 months old...if that):


You have to use civic upper mounts. You have to break off the 19mm welded on nut from the S2000 shocks. It's easy. Put an impact on it for 2 seconds and it snaps right off.


You then just use the regular 14mm (M10? or 12?) civic suspension bolts and a nut on the other side.

You also need to use extra washers up on the top mount nut in order to tighten the upper mount bushings. The S2000 shock shafts are longer than the EM1 shafts.


Besides that, I had to remove the caliper covers as they rubbed the shocks. Again, from my experience, this really isn't worth it. I was originally doing this just to do it and because I wanted a better set of shocks for free lol.

My S2000 has been on KW V3s since forever...and the stock S2000 shocks have just been sitting around. So I figured "why not"? The ride was HORRIBLE. There's too much damping. The advantage, however, is that the damper is a shorter body than the regular civic/integra shocks...so you get a shorter stroke of travel....and monotube external reservior dampers that are very well tuned and CHEAP.

However, with stock EM1 or stock replacement front shocks, the car will keep see-sawing on every bump. It was the WORST ride. If I had stiffer front shocks/springs, it would have kept the car in line better. But who buys just 2 performance shocks just so they can shoe horn in some rear S2000 shocks? Crazy people.
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KW has always made great suspension stuff.I had two vdubs in the past with their stuff but its been years.How is the ride quality now?I know back a few years their suspension had a really wide range of damping and rebound so it could be adjusted for a comfortable ride and then switched over to a pretty aggressive setup for the track.
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you lucky bastards....its $4.25-ish here in LA and that's certain gas stations. oh and i am referring to Chevron prices.
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Its back down to around $3.98ish for 93 at Exxon here. But until June 30th if you use your speedpass at Mobil/Exxon its $0.15 off at a lot of the stations There are like 2 or 3 states that didnt get on this deal but all of the stations I use are included
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Originally Posted by siblues
KW has always made great suspension stuff.I had two vdubs in the past with their stuff but its been years.How is the ride quality now?I know back a few years their suspension had a really wide range of damping and rebound so it could be adjusted for a comfortable ride and then switched over to a pretty aggressive setup for the track.
I actually left my V3s at their factory settings. For S2000s, they're aggressive enough for track duty. For other cars, it seems like they're tuned a little too soft. The damping is unbelievably good, though. The car soaks up bumps, stays planted, and handles very very well, IMO. It always turns pretty good track times and keeps up with cars that you wouldn't expect it to. Cornering speed on stock S2000s is crazy good. Mine is just improved beyond that, but still retains ride quality. The ride is aggressive, but really really really well damped.


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you lucky bastards....its $4.25-ish here in LA and that's certain gas stations. oh and i am referring to Chevron prices.

It's around $4-4.20 for regular in the chicago burbs right now. In the city it's about 20-30 cents more.
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i don't pump Shell but i really like the fact that for every 100 Ralph points you get .10 cents off per gallon on your next visit. I'm really likin that.
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Costco gas stations with a Costco American express is the way to go. It's usually like 20 cents cheaper per gallon AND you get 3% cash back. Can't lose.
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you lucky bastards....its $4.25-ish here in LA and that's certain gas stations. oh and i am referring to Chevron prices.
It's 1.70 per L in euros, that's 2.50 USD.. And 1.80eu on the highway..
(Netherlands)

I find your prices pretty cheap..
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morning crew!

just wondering, how many of you guys got daily drivers or another car other than your EM1?
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I do I have a 99 protege lol

Hey Carlos what octane rating does the fuel have where you live?
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morning crew!

just wondering, how many of you guys got daily drivers or another car other than your EM1?
My EM1 was my daily before my gf took it over. I have an AP1, ITR, and an accord wagon.
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morning crew!

just wondering, how many of you guys got daily drivers or another car other than your EM1?
I daily the EM1 from March to October. In winter I daily my '94 Civic hatch and I'll take the EM1 out during rare sunny weekends and/or meets. Sometimes I'll drive my '78 Civic on nice weekends, just to boot around the city for groceries and errands. I'm thinking of taking out the '94 more so I don't always have to do my work commute in the EM1 though.

Then the wifey has her '98 CR-V as a daily and we use it for long commutes or when going to heaty areas.
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Wifey and I both daily our EM1's...and if all goes well her MR will be replaced by a VSM Si-R this weekend
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Costco gas stations with a Costco American express is the way to go. It's usually like 20 cents cheaper per gallon AND you get 3% cash back. Can't lose.
Right on with Costco Thanks for the explanation on the s2k/civic suspension. I thought you might have modded the front of the s2k shocks to fit somehow. I didn't know about the springs being larger.

I DD my civic (107K), but I also take my 92 S-10 4.3L Chevy (155K) out from time to time. My wife daily's her 96 Accord. 203K miles on it and it is bone stock. She just replaced her shocks a few months ago and stuck with OEM. I almost got her to get some Koni's, but oh well.
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Wifey and I both daily our EM1's...and if all goes well her MR will be replaced by a VSM Si-R this weekend
Damn that's pretty sweet. Occasionally the wifey will use my EM1. Next on our list as a "shared" vehicle is a S2000.
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i will never share anything with a female.

get your own car, own job and own money kthx.

besides last time i let a female drive one of my cars she did about 5k in damage...
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damn that's awesome. hopefully my future girly will have that same honda love. so far, all the ones that i have met are into luxury vehicles and my city is infatuated with luxury or high end sport cars.

well my daily is a 2005 V6 accord sedan and although it doesnt help on gas when it comes to street driving it sure is a relief everytime i go out and not have to worry about my car being tampered with.

Oh and referring to WANTBOOST's comment about sharing things with females... i am all with you on that! lol. i remember my ex from 5 years ago when she tried to drive my EM1 and reversed right into a big *** boulder at the park. lol
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i probably would have pulled a body dump after that
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