borislunov

Just strted to fabricate new manifold for my 1998 Lude. Will try to update by the building progress. In plans 4094R, 3.5' downpipe and exhaust, 2 x WGs.

tony1

Is each runner 1 piece mandrel bent?

onefstek

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I dont' think so. It looks like they were welded and then grinded smooth.

Were is the wastegates going to go?

borislunov

No, it's not one peace. We made the bent for each runner and than welded them on the both sides, but not directly to the flange. You can see at (the worse)angle closest to alternator runner, it's just polished over the weld

borislunov

Dont worry, they will be there it's not a big issue...

ShawnR

in for more updates

HamiltonRex

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why? Your weakening the piece.

arc_55

nice setup! The manifold looks simple with the very little bends or apperance of welds. The only thing i would be worried about is the alternator being so close and what kind of temperatures it will be seeing. You wouldn't want the alternator to get heat soaked and cause continous alternator failures. Maybe a heat sheild? heat wrap? manifold being coated?

96supercharged

Are there going to be some supports for this thing?

ChampWhiteTegra

oil return?

Mike@TCI

over rated...

cluelessmale

iTrader: (1)

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90 or 45 to pan would be may guess

Like the manifold

borislunov

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Thanks, chk the old setup... almost the same distance and alternator not in it's right place. With current setup I'll have more space to put the power steering and bracket for T1 ign system.


Of course it'll be heat wrapped, may be some shield also.

The turbine is higher than the pan, so the oil return no problem...now I'm waiting for all plumbing fittings...

[QUOTE=arc_55]Are there going to be some supports for this thing?[QUOTE] - YES.

BB6-213

more details on the setup, goals?

supergenius

Looks like too much work for the outcome... I can forsee alot of crack repair.... Too much runner. I dont THINK that for the bennefits (well at least for bweing different) the trouble is going to be worth it...

But... I dont know ****... Wish you the best though

DESTROYER

I've decided to stick with the school of "don't knock it til' you try it", simply because there are some local setups that are really haggard looking, and manage to run 12's and not break.

supergenius

That's 12s and this is a 800+ WHP turbo......


if it runs 12s id run it in to a lamp post




Modified by supergenius at 9:43 PM 1/30/2008

m R g S r

I think the OP's goals are a little lower than 12's. . . .

brb gd8

wow thats a awkward manifold. never seen anything like it before.

borislunov

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Not everything was well with the Neukin manifold, also we do know the benefits from our Eclipse with almost the same setup.
As I told, alternator will be in it's right place. With the current setup I'll have more space to put the power steering and bracket for T1 ign system also shortest way to intercooler and.... I'll have big twinscroll Garret ))

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But... I dont know ****... Wish you the best though</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, but it's not the first production of this guy. He has a lot of work behind of his shoulders (Eclipse, 3000GT, BMW, 200sx, 350z...) I have no doubt in his work...
I'm suare that there will be no cracks, coz we have some expiriance in such design The main goal, that I can see each step of producing against the fab shops in USA.

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if it runs 12s id run it in to a lamp post




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?? I dont have in my plans to run 12s @ 800hp... Lets come back to this question in "Drag racing" forum, when I'll finish with this fabrication

supergenius

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It was a joke.


I HOPE it runs better thjan 12s...
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt.


LOL

borislunov

within few days will be welded 2xWastegate

JDMCRX

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Very nice work .

Alot of work eh

onefstek

I wonder how fast will get that turbo to spool with that long of runners.

preludeserge

Borya are you seriously putting this thing together in Ukraine? Is there a few aftermarket turbo'ed Hondas, hell anything really? What diameter/wall thickness tubing are you using? Is it stainless, tig welded, purged? Are you going to brace the turbo to the body or the engine? Is your engine/transmision mounts stock? Is there 1/4 mile tracks around Kiev? Is this thing a daily driver or just a weekend toy? Ya v Rosyie nebil uzshe dvenatsat' l'iet. Good luck with it man. Take a few picks of the stuff around the shop; I'd be curious to see what else you all build there. Volgi, Ladi, Moskvichi...


Modified by preludeserge at 3:04 PM 2/14/2008