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Old 11-29-2008, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
...Likely fix my Kaaz, sell it to a SCCA racer (35 or 40mm setup) then buy a MFactory which is more suited to drag racing.
I'm interested in getting a d-series LSD for my 91 CRX Si for this season. How is the MFactory unit more suited to drag racing vs. the Kaaz?
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Quite a bit. Kaaz is clutch type, good for road racing and autocross. MFactory is helical, good for drag, autocross, road racing, daily driving (doesn't need to be rebuilt and is quieter).
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Ahh, I see. I am definitely interested in getting one.
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My Kaaz after a hard launch on 22x8x13 M&H with 100 shot viz ZEX.......

Right side clutches had the nubs ripped off......



I need a helical


Also, the class (UMTR) I'm likely gonna race my require DOT rubber next year, I'd likely run 205/60/13 M&H.

MF/GearX 1st, stock second, MF 3rd, OEM 3 for 4th, then a CRX si 5th with OEM 4.25 might be my ticket. No time yet to work the math.....or run my ZC 3-4 gearset with better first gear, FD change as needed.

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im going to doing my lsd install this week..so this would be helpful
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Great, let us know how it goes and how you like it. Feel free to post your review in this thread.
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Would you guys recommend this for mixture of street & track use?

also are these made in US? Been told to stay away from cheap china/taiwan junk
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Fine for any kind of use. The MFactory foundry is in Taiwan, we won't like to you about that, but they're not cheap. Country of origin does not dictate quality. See part 1 to understand the quality better.
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thanks!
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Look at the OBX cheap cast centers, then look at the MFactory centers.

Seeing the bad casting of the OBX, plus the issue I had with one unit, Aquafina had 2+ bad units, plus other buyers getting wobbly units, I was not happy.

Then OBX states all bad LSD's must be sent back to them for remachining???? WTF????

Yep, thanks, but no thanks. One out of 43 were bad, I lost $35 on it since I had to pay the shipping both ways.
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Fine for any kind of use. The MFactory foundry is in Taiwan, we won't like to you about that, but they're not cheap. Country of origin does not dictate quality. See part 1 to understand the quality better.
you sure it's not HK?
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Yep.
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Nice review.I am getting one of these bad boys myself.
I have close ratio gears from Mfactory in my tranny and i love them.
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i was planning on getting one of these bad boys before i read this thread and now its just making me want one more, I just wish they still had the 10% off deal.. now i just gotta pay more.. excellent thread, very informative and im glad someone had the $$$ to do this!!
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i purchased one for my boosted gsr hatch. getting it installed and new syncros now at the tranny shop. cant wait to see how it all works out
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You'll love it.
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Look at the OBX cheap cast centers, then look at the MFactory centers.

Seeing the bad casting of the OBX, plus the issue I had with one unit, Aquafina had 2+ bad units, plus other buyers getting wobbly units, I was not happy.

Then OBX states all bad LSD's must be sent back to them for re-machining???? WTF????

Yep, thanks, but no thanks. One out of 43 were bad, I lost $35 on it since I had to pay the shipping both ways.
While i fully understand your valid complaint i can not help forget once upon a time you approved of these LSD's lol!
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Yes I did Richard. But Quality Control went to hell. I only had one bad unit, Aquafina and others came across the same issues, if not worse!!!!!

Since then I've not installed one LSD, so it has effected my business, but I don't want the hassles with returning a product. The big kicker was the pic Aquafina posted of the major casting flaw on the axle tube where the diff bearing is pressed on.

I'm awaiting his MFactory unit to be released to push on others asking for LSD, or if GearX/Special Performance Motorsports come out with something similar I'll be promoting it.

Right now I'm thinking of rebuilding and getting rid of my Kaaz to a SCCA racer and getting a MFactory unit if I get back into the drag racing arena. Awaiting final rules for UMTR before I jump in.

Long time no talk, Sir
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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Yes I did Richard. But Quality Control went to hell. I only had one bad unit, Aquafina and others came across the same issues, if not worse!!!!!

Since then I've not installed one LSD, so it has effected my business, but I don't want the hassles with returning a product. The big kicker was the pic Aquafina posted of the major casting flaw on the axle tube where the diff bearing is pressed on.

I'm awaiting his MFactory unit to be released to push on others asking for LSD, or if GearX/Special Performance Motorsports come out with something similar I'll be promoting it.

Right now I'm thinking of rebuilding and getting rid of my Kaaz to a SCCA racer and getting a MFactory unit if I get back into the drag racing arena. Awaiting final rules for UMTR before I jump in.

Long time no talk, Sir
Well as we have "discussed" before today im not a fan of clutch LSD's!

secondly as for long time no talk lol i read yours and tuna's thoughts upon my shall we call it demise upon the other forum

it did not come as any shock liveforthe you know what... but don and his two faced comments i had all the warnings from other people in this industry but i chose to ignore it and sure enough the truth come out in the end it is all good though there loss not mine!

People like my self are always persecuted for not been a sheep and daring to think different i expected it sooner or later although i dare say the place is not the same with out my persona lmao!
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So what is so significant about the runout issue? I am not educated in differentials, but from what I see its not an issue- The outside of a moving part being out of round doesnt affect anything does it?

I coudl understand if the center of it was out of round, but its only the outside, with nothing riding on it.

Am I wrong? Please educate me
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Roll a ball down a hill and watch it. Now roll an egg down a hill and watch it.
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That is of no help to my question. I have enough intelligence that an out of round item does not roll well. What does this part roll on though? Im being sincere when asking this question-

Does the outside of that sit into something with bearings?

Originally Posted by Aquafina
Roll a ball down a hill and watch it. Now roll an egg down a hill and watch it.
Old 01-23-2009, 09:39 AM
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When the diff spins, it needs to be 100% stable to function properly/efficiently. If it is out-of-round, it cannot do this.

Imagine a baseball spinning on it's axis, then imagine an egg spinning. Which one is more stable when it spins?
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When the diff spins, it needs to be 100% stable to function properly/efficiently. If it is out-of-round, it cannot do this.

Imagine a baseball spinning on it's axis, then imagine an egg spinning. Which one is more stable when it spins?
So it would create a vibration while at speed? How practicle would it be to have itmachined true?
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Depends on how out of round it is and how good your machinist is.

It can create vibration, noise, and cause the final drive, diff bearings, and other parts to fail.


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