D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
#1
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D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
So I am starting to look at building up my spare transmission to handle the power a little bit better. The previous owner of my car beat on the transmission quite a bit and was in bad shape when i got it. and now that i built up a new motor and swapped it in with a turbo the trans is really starting to show its age. My friend has another EX trans the will give me so that i can start building this up. here are my plans:
1.) New bearings-Which ones should i be replacing? diff bearings, and counter shaft, main shaft bearings, what else?
2.) New seals- input and axel seals, that's it right?
3.) Carbon coated syncro's- Is this needed? I am going to put ne syncros in anyways, i figured these would help make shifting easier.
4.) LSD - Originally I was looking at an obx, but apparently they have gone way down hill recently. the next option i was looking at was the MFactory unit. Im not sure what to do here, I dont really want to spend 650 dollars for an LSD when the 350 dollar one would do the job for my power levels.
My current car is a eagle/vitara build, 450cc injectors, 15 psi, somewhere around 275-300 hp. after rebuilding the trans and a few more upgrades I want to increase the pressure and hope to hit 400. This is a street car with full interior etc, and is a DD, but I do like to drag race so it will see some abuse off the road.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me. I have been thinking about getting in contact with gearspeed inc to purchase all the bearings, seals, and syncros since that is the only place i know who has it all. is this a good idea or are there other places i should check out, and how does gear speed inc compare to others?
1.) New bearings-Which ones should i be replacing? diff bearings, and counter shaft, main shaft bearings, what else?
2.) New seals- input and axel seals, that's it right?
3.) Carbon coated syncro's- Is this needed? I am going to put ne syncros in anyways, i figured these would help make shifting easier.
4.) LSD - Originally I was looking at an obx, but apparently they have gone way down hill recently. the next option i was looking at was the MFactory unit. Im not sure what to do here, I dont really want to spend 650 dollars for an LSD when the 350 dollar one would do the job for my power levels.
My current car is a eagle/vitara build, 450cc injectors, 15 psi, somewhere around 275-300 hp. after rebuilding the trans and a few more upgrades I want to increase the pressure and hope to hit 400. This is a street car with full interior etc, and is a DD, but I do like to drag race so it will see some abuse off the road.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me. I have been thinking about getting in contact with gearspeed inc to purchase all the bearings, seals, and syncros since that is the only place i know who has it all. is this a good idea or are there other places i should check out, and how does gear speed inc compare to others?
#2
Solbros Owns Me
Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
I offer complete rebuild kits, fwiw.
Countershaft bearings don't wear out TOO often, but I have seen it. Usually standard bearings are the ISB and end case. If you're installing a new diff, then you must use new bearings, I don't care what anyone else says. Reusing diff bearings is hack.
Axles seals check, input shaft seal check, and shift rod seal should be replaced.
OBX can handle the power fine, it's just the longevity of the materials, craftsmanship, and customer service that leads people elsewhere.
Pull apart the trans, inspect everything- be good to do the complete sleeve set- sleeve, hub, and synchro rings/springs.
It will cost some $$ to do it right, but nothing feels better than a nice transmission
Countershaft bearings don't wear out TOO often, but I have seen it. Usually standard bearings are the ISB and end case. If you're installing a new diff, then you must use new bearings, I don't care what anyone else says. Reusing diff bearings is hack.
Axles seals check, input shaft seal check, and shift rod seal should be replaced.
OBX can handle the power fine, it's just the longevity of the materials, craftsmanship, and customer service that leads people elsewhere.
Pull apart the trans, inspect everything- be good to do the complete sleeve set- sleeve, hub, and synchro rings/springs.
It will cost some $$ to do it right, but nothing feels better than a nice transmission
#3
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Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
Thanks for the informative reply, that pretty much covers all the bases, anything else i should be concerned about or other places to look?
#4
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Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
Depends on what is needed in the tranny upon tear down.
Scuffing the gear cones helps, I rarely replace the synchros and then use leftover GOOD OEM's. I've yet to even see a carbon synchro in person.
I have several trannys I built running low 11's, sponsering my first tranny since he has a legit chance to run 10's. I built his tranny the first time with OBX before their QC went to hell.
One a D Series LSD install I replace the diff bearings and the input shaft bearing along with four seals. Then inspect everything else. IF the countershaft bearings are bad, there is alot more damage elsewhere, sometimes not even worth rebuilding the tranny.
Scuffing the gear cones helps, I rarely replace the synchros and then use leftover GOOD OEM's. I've yet to even see a carbon synchro in person.
I have several trannys I built running low 11's, sponsering my first tranny since he has a legit chance to run 10's. I built his tranny the first time with OBX before their QC went to hell.
One a D Series LSD install I replace the diff bearings and the input shaft bearing along with four seals. Then inspect everything else. IF the countershaft bearings are bad, there is alot more damage elsewhere, sometimes not even worth rebuilding the tranny.
#6
D Tranny Guru
Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
ANY OBX I'm given to install from now will be checked on a lathe before even opening the tranny it is destine for.
We've been screwed on this, I think OBX just put the ramaining stock on Ebay as Mirage LSD's.
We've been screwed on this, I think OBX just put the ramaining stock on Ebay as Mirage LSD's.
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Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
that's not a bad idea, check the run out etc on a lathe, if i decided to do that i will definitely throw it up on the lathe.
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Re: D16Z6 transmission upgrade/rebuild
do it right the first time. you go and buy an obx for 300 and then it breaks or doesnt work its still gonna cost more and cause more headaches then just getting right from the start. i went and bought a wavetrac. lifetime warrenty
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