Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
#26
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Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
Oh you're missing the rubber stuff under the top hat? Yeah that would make a difference. It does multiply by the motion ratio too. So that's definitely part of it.
#28
Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport) **Solution posted**
Alright, so I got everything done and wanted to share what I ended up doing. It turned into quite a project in the end (read below). First, to reply to the last two posts, I actually did have spring isolators.
I decided to go with the Eibach Pro Kit springs I ordered instead of sticking with the H&R Sports. Here are a few pictures:
H&R Sport
Eibach Pro Kit with 10mm strut spacers (see below)
Better picture of wheel gap
It might be hard to believe, but it's exactly what I was looking for. It's somewhere around a 1.0" (F) and 0.80 (R) drop with spring rates that compliment my driving style. My original plan was to do springs and a new driver side axle, but plans never really pan out.
I replaced:
Springs
Driver side axle (Drive Shaft Shop)
Honda MTF
Front upper control arms (Moog)
Front lower ball joints (Sankei 555)
Turned front rotors
Passenger side rear trailing arm (OEM)
Passenger side rear LCA (OEM)
Both rear trailing arm bushings; clocked (OEM)
Rear brake shoes
New brake fluid (Lucas DOT 3)
I also added some 10mm strut spacers as previously mentioned, just to add a little more ground clearance and got the car aligned.
A lot more than I wanted to spend, but now my car is finished for the most part.
I decided to go with the Eibach Pro Kit springs I ordered instead of sticking with the H&R Sports. Here are a few pictures:
H&R Sport
Eibach Pro Kit with 10mm strut spacers (see below)
Better picture of wheel gap
It might be hard to believe, but it's exactly what I was looking for. It's somewhere around a 1.0" (F) and 0.80 (R) drop with spring rates that compliment my driving style. My original plan was to do springs and a new driver side axle, but plans never really pan out.
I replaced:
Springs
Driver side axle (Drive Shaft Shop)
Honda MTF
Front upper control arms (Moog)
Front lower ball joints (Sankei 555)
Turned front rotors
Passenger side rear trailing arm (OEM)
Passenger side rear LCA (OEM)
Both rear trailing arm bushings; clocked (OEM)
Rear brake shoes
New brake fluid (Lucas DOT 3)
I also added some 10mm strut spacers as previously mentioned, just to add a little more ground clearance and got the car aligned.
A lot more than I wanted to spend, but now my car is finished for the most part.
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Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
Thanks for sharing
If you are happy and it's technically well done we're happy too
The car looks good. Do you plan any body additions or maybe a rear disk set considering the engine power? Does the alignment check out, no readings off the mark?
Glad you're happy with the spacers
If you are happy and it's technically well done we're happy too
The car looks good. Do you plan any body additions or maybe a rear disk set considering the engine power? Does the alignment check out, no readings off the mark?
Glad you're happy with the spacers
#30
Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
The alignment specs are off in the rear (1/4" toe in). The guy was recommended by a lot of people; he is super old school and doesn't use lasers or anything. He showed me how the adjusters connecting the trailing arm to the chassis were maxed out. I took care to press the RTA bushing in to the proper depth so I'm not sure why this would be, but he said he wasn't concerned.
Yeah, they are great quality and the guy was great to deal with.
#32
Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
I thought about it, but I wanted something with progressive rates; it is my daily driver and I also travel pretty often. It isn't going to be a track car, but it does feel capable of handling some SCCA action from time to time. The rear ITR sway bar gives it some additional rigidity in the corners. I also still have the H&R springs if I ever want to swap them back out for some reason.
#33
Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
I thought about it, but I wanted something with progressive rates; it is my daily driver and I also travel pretty often. It isn't going to be a track car, but it does feel capable of handling some SCCA action from time to time. The rear ITR sway bar gives it some additional rigidity in the corners. I also still have the H&R springs if I ever want to swap them back out for some reason.
#34
Re: Why is my car so low (Koni Yellow/H&R sport)
Interesting thread! Lowering springs can be a bit of a crapshoot in terms of how much they actually lower the car. A car with a D-series, no AC, no PS etc will be lighter in front than a B-series car so it will sit higher. In rear, a sedan will weigh more than a hatchback so the latter will sit higher. Also, different dampers have slightly different spring perch locations. A friend with an EK hatchback tried some Eibach Pro-kit on the stock dampers. Result: front on the "ground", rear in the "air". Very bad.
Glad you got things to your liking in the end!
ps: ITR rear springs are progressive in rear for comfort and linear in front for steering response. Honda was very smart. Don't know how they work on an EK in terms of ride height though.
Glad you got things to your liking in the end!
ps: ITR rear springs are progressive in rear for comfort and linear in front for steering response. Honda was very smart. Don't know how they work on an EK in terms of ride height though.
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