The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
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Indycar Racing News | Racer.com - IndyCar unveils 2018 bodywork renderings
Indycar Racing News | Racer.com - IndyCar unveils 2018 bodywork renderings
IndyCar unveils 2018 bodywork renderings
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By Marshall PruettWednesday, 29 March 2017
The Verizon IndyCar Series has produced the first look of its 2018 universal superspeedway bodywork with an overlay of the current car's shape. Smaller detail images of possible road course aerodynamics were also released. The new renderings follow sketches produced by the series earlier this year.
"While this remains a work in progress, we are encouraged with where the development of the 2018 car stands," said IndyCar president of competition Jay Frye. "The look of the car is bold, the performance data from simulations is meeting targeted goals and safety enhancements built into the design will be substantial."
In Speedway trim, the universal bodywork confirms a number of initiatives Frye's competition team has implemented that differ from the base 2012 Dallara DW12. The move to a low engine cover has been known for some time, but detail items like reconfigured front tire anti-interlocking devices – often referred to as the "sponsor blockers" (pictured below) by some team owners – that obscured the sidepods will come as a welcome change. In the rendering, the smaller floor-mounted anti-interlocking fins have been rotated 180 degrees and taper toward the rear, giving a clear view of the sidepods and sponsor logos. The fins are also being considered for complete removal once the 2018 bodywork is finalized.
The removal of the boxy rear wheel guards – the "Kardashians," as they were quickly dubbed – is another drastic alteration that will help the DW12 to present itself as a more traditional open-wheel design.
"We've been working on the aerodynamics to suit the look, rather than the other way around," said Tino Belli, the former IndyCar race engineer who serves as the series' director of aerodynamic development.
Other interesting items have been confirmed, such as the re-routing of the air inlets for the twin-turbo Chevy and Honda engines from the roll hoop to inside the sidepods. A big decision has also been made by IndyCar to fill the large holes in the leading edge of the floor for road/street courses and short ovals.
That change, which will return a significant amount of downforce to the underwing, will help the series in its quest to reduce the DW12's reliance on topside aerodynamic devices to make downforce by making more downforce beneath the cars.
"We're working on creating more of the downforce from the underwing," Belli added. "The hole in the floor will be sealed for the road courses and short ovals, but will still be open for the superspeedways."
Belli has also led the design of new front and rear wing main planes, and in high-downforce specification, the multi-element rear wing package will be wider and lower.
A new roll hoop faring, slightly repositioned mirrors, and integrated rear tire ramps are also visible in the new rendering. Noticeably absent from the 2018 rendering is the cockpit aeroscreen developed by IndyCar.
"While this remains a work in progress, we are encouraged with where the development of the 2018 car stands," said IndyCar president of competition Jay Frye. "The look of the car is bold, the performance data from simulations is meeting targeted goals and safety enhancements built into the design will be substantial."
In Speedway trim, the universal bodywork confirms a number of initiatives Frye's competition team has implemented that differ from the base 2012 Dallara DW12. The move to a low engine cover has been known for some time, but detail items like reconfigured front tire anti-interlocking devices – often referred to as the "sponsor blockers" (pictured below) by some team owners – that obscured the sidepods will come as a welcome change. In the rendering, the smaller floor-mounted anti-interlocking fins have been rotated 180 degrees and taper toward the rear, giving a clear view of the sidepods and sponsor logos. The fins are also being considered for complete removal once the 2018 bodywork is finalized.
The removal of the boxy rear wheel guards – the "Kardashians," as they were quickly dubbed – is another drastic alteration that will help the DW12 to present itself as a more traditional open-wheel design.
"We've been working on the aerodynamics to suit the look, rather than the other way around," said Tino Belli, the former IndyCar race engineer who serves as the series' director of aerodynamic development.
Other interesting items have been confirmed, such as the re-routing of the air inlets for the twin-turbo Chevy and Honda engines from the roll hoop to inside the sidepods. A big decision has also been made by IndyCar to fill the large holes in the leading edge of the floor for road/street courses and short ovals.
That change, which will return a significant amount of downforce to the underwing, will help the series in its quest to reduce the DW12's reliance on topside aerodynamic devices to make downforce by making more downforce beneath the cars.
"We're working on creating more of the downforce from the underwing," Belli added. "The hole in the floor will be sealed for the road courses and short ovals, but will still be open for the superspeedways."
Belli has also led the design of new front and rear wing main planes, and in high-downforce specification, the multi-element rear wing package will be wider and lower.
A new roll hoop faring, slightly repositioned mirrors, and integrated rear tire ramps are also visible in the new rendering. Noticeably absent from the 2018 rendering is the cockpit aeroscreen developed by IndyCar.
#2330
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
I don't know who came up with those renders but they should be shot. Silver wire frame on a black/silverish body doesn't really get your point across.
#2336
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
Also even if Ham did get out ahead of Seb with the pace that Seb was showing I think he would have been able to force Ham into an error during the long second stint.
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#2340
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
Another issue with Merc saying if about Max. Kimi was sitting in front of Max. Seb was still running quick laps (as evidenced by his lap chart) when he pitted. Seb's US still had fast laps in them. Ferrari would have backed Kimi up to Ham and then waited for Seb to cover him b4 bringing him in had Max pitted a lap earlier.
#2341
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
Originally Posted by Ross Brawn
"We talk about aerodynamics, I think we have to recognize these cars are incredibly quick because they use aerodynamics and if we want cars as quick as this and as spectacular as this then we can't just turn the aerodynamics off."
"I think there's a view that we should get rid of the aerodynamics and have big, wide tires and then get the grip mechanically and then we can go back to cars racing each other. We can, but they will be a lot slower than most of the single seater cars that are out there.
"So I think we should embrace aerodynamics, but in a different way. We should work out how we can make the aerodynamics as benign as possible so cars can still race each other. That's never truly been done. I think if you look at the configuration of the aerodynamics we have, we've got cars now with very complicated bodywork structures which create very sensitive flow regimes around the structures which as soon as they are disturbed by the car in front, suffer.
"So can we come up with a set of regulations and a concept where we can still use the power of aerodynamics to give us the speed and the spectacle of the cars, but in a more benign way so that they can at least race each other more closely without having that impact. So that's my ambition, that's my objective and as I've said we're putting a team together within FOM to look at those ideas, with some substance."
"I think there's a view that we should get rid of the aerodynamics and have big, wide tires and then get the grip mechanically and then we can go back to cars racing each other. We can, but they will be a lot slower than most of the single seater cars that are out there.
"So I think we should embrace aerodynamics, but in a different way. We should work out how we can make the aerodynamics as benign as possible so cars can still race each other. That's never truly been done. I think if you look at the configuration of the aerodynamics we have, we've got cars now with very complicated bodywork structures which create very sensitive flow regimes around the structures which as soon as they are disturbed by the car in front, suffer.
"So can we come up with a set of regulations and a concept where we can still use the power of aerodynamics to give us the speed and the spectacle of the cars, but in a more benign way so that they can at least race each other more closely without having that impact. So that's my ambition, that's my objective and as I've said we're putting a team together within FOM to look at those ideas, with some substance."
#2342
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
Another issue with Merc saying if about Max. Kimi was sitting in front of Max. Seb was still running quick laps (as evidenced by his lap chart) when he pitted. Seb's US still had fast laps in them. Ferrari would have backed Kimi up to Ham and then waited for Seb to cover him b4 bringing him in had Max pitted a lap earlier.
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i know i'm trying to stir up some good trollin but i'm too busy to really get into it - good trollin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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