All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside -
08-11-2006, 11:21 AM
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All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside -
Achieving REAL dynojet 300whp on a K series motor is not a challenge anymore. In my book, a challenge is being able to do just that with as little work or parts as possible.
A little bit about the owner and the car:
Mark had an RSX type s with toda cams and then later on he received the first set of IPS K2 cams #001.. he then realised that the RSX will never go as fast as he wanted to in an all motor form, so he bought a teil EG DX and did the basic k20a2 swap with K pro and IPS k2 cams. At that point he made around 230whp, but wanted more.. (2006 Civic Si manifold , RBC) DTR FAB 4-2-1 header as well
So he added the following parts to the mix:
-CRV block - stock sleeves
-Je pistons 87mm on stock sleeves
-IB spec Rods
-transfered the k20a2 oil pump and oil cooler to the CRV block
That is all, the head was not touched.....
So after installing the motor back in the car, he took it to get dynoed and tuned by Brian Fisher at inlinepro in VA
After 11 runs, this was the final tune on pump gas
That is with stock manifold that is not letting us go further after 8200 RPM. Also the IPS k2 cams are not ideal for that motor.
The compression is high but not too high, however we cannot reveal the compression because the car is competing... The gas is pump gas.. but we cannot reveal the octane.. I guess that is better than telling you guys misleading information. I am sure you understand, don;t want his competition to copy his setup to the T.
Car only made 2 passes with the new tune, best of 11.9 @113 , with a lot of things against us..like car weight, wrong pressure on slicks, no LSD, no speedo, etc.. so we know low 11s are going to come...
Coming soon...
Part 2: Hint: They are 54mm and they are BIG!
BIG THANKS TO INLINE PRO FOR THE TUNE, TWM INDUCTION FOR THE ITBS , DRIVESHAFTSHOP FOR THE AXLES, AND MARK S AND JEREMY HIS BRO FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS CAR.
And yeah, it is a street car with stock seats and seatbelts , no rear seats..etc....
Oh yeah I forgot.. 3 inch Kteller exhaust
for stock manifold making that power
Modified by Nikos at 6:38 PM 8/11/2006
A little bit about the owner and the car:
Mark had an RSX type s with toda cams and then later on he received the first set of IPS K2 cams #001.. he then realised that the RSX will never go as fast as he wanted to in an all motor form, so he bought a teil EG DX and did the basic k20a2 swap with K pro and IPS k2 cams. At that point he made around 230whp, but wanted more.. (2006 Civic Si manifold , RBC) DTR FAB 4-2-1 header as well
So he added the following parts to the mix:
-CRV block - stock sleeves
-Je pistons 87mm on stock sleeves
-IB spec Rods
-transfered the k20a2 oil pump and oil cooler to the CRV block
That is all, the head was not touched.....
So after installing the motor back in the car, he took it to get dynoed and tuned by Brian Fisher at inlinepro in VA
After 11 runs, this was the final tune on pump gas
That is with stock manifold that is not letting us go further after 8200 RPM. Also the IPS k2 cams are not ideal for that motor.
The compression is high but not too high, however we cannot reveal the compression because the car is competing... The gas is pump gas.. but we cannot reveal the octane.. I guess that is better than telling you guys misleading information. I am sure you understand, don;t want his competition to copy his setup to the T.
Car only made 2 passes with the new tune, best of 11.9 @113 , with a lot of things against us..like car weight, wrong pressure on slicks, no LSD, no speedo, etc.. so we know low 11s are going to come...
Coming soon...
Part 2: Hint: They are 54mm and they are BIG!
BIG THANKS TO INLINE PRO FOR THE TUNE, TWM INDUCTION FOR THE ITBS , DRIVESHAFTSHOP FOR THE AXLES, AND MARK S AND JEREMY HIS BRO FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS CAR.
And yeah, it is a street car with stock seats and seatbelts , no rear seats..etc....
Oh yeah I forgot.. 3 inch Kteller exhaust
for stock manifold making that powerModified by Nikos at 6:38 PM 8/11/2006
08-11-2006, 11:48 AM
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Re: All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside - (flesh199)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flesh199 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow 11.9 with these limited mod is great </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks but 11.9 is really not an indication on how fast this car is... We just need more time since we are not messing with the suspension yet or taking out weight..
Comparing the car vs my 200whp EG.... is like comparing a sling shot vs a glock 19... big difference
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks but 11.9 is really not an indication on how fast this car is... We just need more time since we are not messing with the suspension yet or taking out weight..
Comparing the car vs my 200whp EG.... is like comparing a sling shot vs a glock 19... big difference
08-11-2006, 12:44 PM
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Re: All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside - (Nikos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nikos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Achieving REAL dynojet 300whp on a K series motor is not a challenge anymore.
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on a pump gas street motor? your on your own with that statement because I think its a huge achievement
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on a pump gas street motor? your on your own with that statement because I think its a huge achievement
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08-11-2006, 02:39 PM
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Nice numbers, wanna see times. IS he still using the k20a2 tranny? planning on keeping that final aswell?
Modified by Professor15 at 8:00 PM 8/11/2006
Modified by Professor15 at 8:00 PM 8/11/2006
08-11-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside - (92Lx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92Lx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to be an ***, just a realist -I don't think the word 'budget' really belongs anywhere near the build however, unless its "medium budget". Tho it looks like it was a fairly component light build.
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for someone with a car that has a k series motor already, it is budget. Total cost of rods, pistons, block and bearings was around $1500. If you starting out, sure you need to get the car K ready, but in the end it will cost you a little more than what a type r c5 swap cost back in the day when Bseries or H series were the only options.
Do a search on here and see how many people have spend close to 10-15K to have a B series that is making 220whp.. So I do not think I am misleading when I refer to it as budget. K series parts are now made in canada and the USA, so parts that you used to pay a lot of money for, are now.. cheaper.. and brand new. Brand new k24a bare block is $500... new k20z3 head is around 1300... just do the research.. I am thinking about writing a book about all this stuff because I physically cannot fit all I want to share in one thread.
We have many routes to take.. not sure which one we are going to take yet... bigger header, manifold... more tuning...
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for someone with a car that has a k series motor already, it is budget. Total cost of rods, pistons, block and bearings was around $1500. If you starting out, sure you need to get the car K ready, but in the end it will cost you a little more than what a type r c5 swap cost back in the day when Bseries or H series were the only options.
Do a search on here and see how many people have spend close to 10-15K to have a B series that is making 220whp.. So I do not think I am misleading when I refer to it as budget. K series parts are now made in canada and the USA, so parts that you used to pay a lot of money for, are now.. cheaper.. and brand new. Brand new k24a bare block is $500... new k20z3 head is around 1300... just do the research.. I am thinking about writing a book about all this stuff because I physically cannot fit all I want to share in one thread.
We have many routes to take.. not sure which one we are going to take yet... bigger header, manifold... more tuning...
08-12-2006, 04:21 AM
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thank you for the kind words and Mark S for all the hard work!
Best run out of only 2 runs
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60'-----1.690
330----4.958
1/8----7.656
mph---91.63
1000---10.012
1/4----11.998
mph---113.62
Best run out of only 2 runs
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60'-----1.690
330----4.958
1/8----7.656
mph---91.63
1000---10.012
1/4----11.998
mph---113.62
08-12-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside - (Nikos)
props to you guys! that thing is making some serious power. track times will show after some more seat time!
08-13-2006, 01:13 PM
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08-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Re: All Motor K24a - Budget 300whp build Part 1: - dyno inside - (Nikos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nikos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just came back
here;s a teaser
http://www.k20a.org/upload/teaser.mpg
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Damn thats a turbo killa right there
here;s a teaser
http://www.k20a.org/upload/teaser.mpg
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Damn thats a turbo killa right there