JDM H23A into CRX
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Re: JDM H23A into CRX
There was a thread here with an H22 swap where the owner was revolving the whold buildaround retaining the A/C.
I can't find the thread now (sorry) but it fizzled out.
I think he failed.
I can't find the thread now (sorry) but it fizzled out.
I think he failed.
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Yeah I think the innovative a/c bracket will bring it in close enough to block. But I still think the AC clutch may stick out to far to clear the frame rail. I will cut and patch it at my friends shop if I have too. I'm going to look at the compressors maybe they choose the EK compressor because it has the lowest profile clutch?
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Ugh.. I wonder if he knew about or tried the innovative AC mount. And at what point he failed.
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Re: JDM H23A into CRX
That might be the thread I remember actually.
EDIT: Found it but it wasn't the same thread.
https://honda-tech.com/honda-crx-ef-...build-3040413/
EDIT: Found it but it wasn't the same thread.
https://honda-tech.com/honda-crx-ef-...build-3040413/
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I have done a 92-95 civic H22A swap with AC. It was miserable. I will never do one again.
I would not want to try in the 88-91 chassis. In my h22 94 civic i moved the alternator down to the bottom position was well...
anyway i have torn and blow up mounts before, not just the urethane inserts but also the metal body. If I have to source my own replacement parts or repair it myself I would rather just build it myself.
I would not want to try in the 88-91 chassis. In my h22 94 civic i moved the alternator down to the bottom position was well...
anyway i have torn and blow up mounts before, not just the urethane inserts but also the metal body. If I have to source my own replacement parts or repair it myself I would rather just build it myself.
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That might be the thread I remember actually.
EDIT: Found it but it wasn't the same thread.
https://honda-tech.com/honda-crx-ef-...build-3040413/
EDIT: Found it but it wasn't the same thread.
https://honda-tech.com/honda-crx-ef-...build-3040413/
I really believe the SIR core support and headlights will clear the Alternator in its stock position ( maybe some trimming ) then use the a/c mount from innovative and hope I don't have to chop and weld to much with all this information.
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Yeah it may take me months, like I said I just have the swap right now.
I haven't seen any cases of aftermarket mounts breaking. I've seen the urethane deteriorate but not the actual mounts. And for my power levels ( for now) we will see. I haven't made up my mind completely on my mount choice. I do like ESP though.
I haven't seen any cases of aftermarket mounts breaking. I've seen the urethane deteriorate but not the actual mounts. And for my power levels ( for now) we will see. I haven't made up my mind completely on my mount choice. I do like ESP though.
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I have torn a steel rear mount in half on a stock h22a (Intake, exhaust and street tune so no more than 180whp). Also have torn the urethane insert as well. both were covered by warranty.
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I had **** ebay mounts on my last setup, definitely coughing up the cash for better quality this time. It was a built H23 vtec. Just street tuned but it snapped the 250hp yonaka axle never had a problem with the mounts though. So I'm going with experience and saying mount choice is important but don't **** on the little guy too soon.
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May I ask you why not ESP?
The gentleman there were very detailed when I was messaging him. Even offered to make a one off A/C mount because Florida summers are not to be fucked with... mostly all year really it's 78 where I'm at now in December. ...at 1:20 am. Anyway, none of his products look cheap. All the welds look like they won't break down the road. Also his hands on and passion for my swap into these 88-91 chassis. And his R&D is track,street,autocross his products just like the others are proven and competitive. In my eyes I see his products right there with the other top developers, I just like the hands on family ran working man business there all made to order (not a production line) and from what I read hand welded by his father.
I looked up Chrisb. Didn't find to much but a few threads.
How are the PCI bearings? I'm going for the full kit (front,skirts,diffuser, wing) definitely there trailing arm bushings.
The gentleman there were very detailed when I was messaging him. Even offered to make a one off A/C mount because Florida summers are not to be fucked with... mostly all year really it's 78 where I'm at now in December. ...at 1:20 am. Anyway, none of his products look cheap. All the welds look like they won't break down the road. Also his hands on and passion for my swap into these 88-91 chassis. And his R&D is track,street,autocross his products just like the others are proven and competitive. In my eyes I see his products right there with the other top developers, I just like the hands on family ran working man business there all made to order (not a production line) and from what I read hand welded by his father.
I looked up Chrisb. Didn't find to much but a few threads.
How are the PCI bearings? I'm going for the full kit (front,skirts,diffuser, wing) definitely there trailing arm bushings.
Couldn't tell you about the PCI yet as the car isn't running.
Doesn't even look like he tried, I'm going to figure out what you have todo to make it work.
I really believe the SIR core support and headlights will clear the Alternator in its stock position ( maybe some trimming ) then use the a/c mount from innovative and hope I don't have to chop and weld to much with all this information.
I really believe the SIR core support and headlights will clear the Alternator in its stock position ( maybe some trimming ) then use the a/c mount from innovative and hope I don't have to chop and weld to much with all this information.
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ESP- looks like a decent product and I have his alternator mount. I personally believe custom fab should have at least one or two items on the shelf ready to go. The double heim joint for EF traction bars is wrong, which is what is used by ESP, Full Race and most others besides Innovative.
Couldn't tell you about the PCI yet as the car isn't running.
AFAIK the only difference in swapping to a SIR front is the T-bar.
Couldn't tell you about the PCI yet as the car isn't running.
AFAIK the only difference in swapping to a SIR front is the T-bar.
From what I am reading, and why the SIR front end conversion works is because the core support is about 1/2" or 3/4 further off the front of the car versus the usdm version, that's why the hood doesn't latch when you just swap the hood and have to pull out the lock or swap to the SIR core support , all in all nothing lines up right without doing the whole kit fenders,hood,bumper core support t bar. The SIR lights are swappable but I'm reading they leave a gap around the bumper and the corner lights are a different shapes as well from the usdm so you use usdm fenders.
If I can find a not so decent shape SIR front end complete for around 800 I would jump on it. But all the main sites are asking 1300_2300 and that's a bit fresh for my taste.
Also going to look into aftermarket headlamps for usdm cars that are lower profile on the back, who knows I may get lucky and find something slim on the back compared to stock.
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Aahhhaaa thank you sir. You just saved me about 1100 lol. Well then scratch all the stuff I talked about tonight, ZC headlights will be what I'm using.
I wish I could find a single write up about this from someone that seen it through the whole way. Did they get uncomfortable with cutting at the car? I just see nothing like I use to years ago. All the threads are missing or I can't find them. This was the way they did it before there were off the shelf mounts. We just dive in and figure it out.
big thanks for pointing out the ZC headlights!
I wish I could find a single write up about this from someone that seen it through the whole way. Did they get uncomfortable with cutting at the car? I just see nothing like I use to years ago. All the threads are missing or I can't find them. This was the way they did it before there were off the shelf mounts. We just dive in and figure it out.
big thanks for pointing out the ZC headlights!
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Just got innovative mounts and competition bar in. They both look top notch. I would like to see welds on the inside of the rod ends on the traction bars.
I have ordered tons of **** and it's all made to order or on back order, that's why updates are taking a while but there's all sorts of **** on the way. I'll post up more about these upon install and testing.
I have ordered tons of **** and it's all made to order or on back order, that's why updates are taking a while but there's all sorts of **** on the way. I'll post up more about these upon install and testing.
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Competition clutch stage 4. Dual sprung 6 puck disc. The randomness of parts that will be arriving the next few weeks is incredible. Lots of stuff on back order or out of stock or shipping. I'm in no rush, I'm taking my time and buying quality over economy. I'm literally waiting on thousands of dollars in parts to arrive.
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Just realized these are a knock off and not a authentic buddy club extended ball joint... should I just sale them and purchase the authentic ones? They do feel very firm yet smooth when rotating them by hand (no homo) looks and feels like a dope *** product, just don't know if I want it on my car knowing it's still a knock off... anyone using these? Heard anything about them?
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