'96 CR-V B20 swap into a '00 Civic Hatch CX - Questions!
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'96 CR-V B20 swap into a '00 Civic Hatch CX - Questions!
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First off I read the sticky in regards to parts needed etc., but I wanted to clarify a few things before I jump into this swap!
I purchased a donor '96 CR-V w/ original B20 motor, 5-Speed trans etc. for $400.
The person I bought it from said it'd be a straightforward swap since I can use the transmission and axles off the CR-V, but I'm reading otherwise on here.
So I'm in search of the FACTS! My questions is - What can I actually salvage from the CR-V that will work on my Hatch for the swap?
First off I read the sticky in regards to parts needed etc., but I wanted to clarify a few things before I jump into this swap!
I purchased a donor '96 CR-V w/ original B20 motor, 5-Speed trans etc. for $400.
The person I bought it from said it'd be a straightforward swap since I can use the transmission and axles off the CR-V, but I'm reading otherwise on here.
So I'm in search of the FACTS! My questions is - What can I actually salvage from the CR-V that will work on my Hatch for the swap?
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Re: '96 CR-V B20 swap into a '00 Civic Hatch CX - Questions!
Which engine do you have? B20B or B20Z? The engine you have is not from a '96 CR-V, CR-Vs didn't come until '97, the manual transmission wasn't offered until '98.
If you have a '99 - '01 CR-V you can use the engine haness in a '99 - '00 Civic (I have personally done this before and can confirm that it works and is the easiest way to do this swap) I think you can use a '98 CR-V harness as well, as I believe they were OBD2B, but I'm not 100% sure.
You can't use the transmission or axles, those will need to come from a '94 - '01 Integra, '99 - '00 Civic Si or '94 - '97 Del Sol VTEC. Shift linkage needs to come from either a '94 - '01 Integra or '99 - '00 Civic Si.
The intake manifold wont clear the hood on the early B20s. Replace it with an LS manifold. (use an LS throttle cable and bracket) If it's a late model B20 (B20Z) it will fit.
You can use the driver's side fluid filled mount from the CR-V itself along with the cast iron post mount on the engine (this will drop the engine down more than the 2 post Si mount most people tell you to use) Rear "T" bracket needs to come from a '99 - '00 Civic Si
You can also use the gauge cluster, it's a direct swap.
If you have a '99 - '01 CR-V you can use the engine haness in a '99 - '00 Civic (I have personally done this before and can confirm that it works and is the easiest way to do this swap) I think you can use a '98 CR-V harness as well, as I believe they were OBD2B, but I'm not 100% sure.
You can't use the transmission or axles, those will need to come from a '94 - '01 Integra, '99 - '00 Civic Si or '94 - '97 Del Sol VTEC. Shift linkage needs to come from either a '94 - '01 Integra or '99 - '00 Civic Si.
The intake manifold wont clear the hood on the early B20s. Replace it with an LS manifold. (use an LS throttle cable and bracket) If it's a late model B20 (B20Z) it will fit.
You can use the driver's side fluid filled mount from the CR-V itself along with the cast iron post mount on the engine (this will drop the engine down more than the 2 post Si mount most people tell you to use) Rear "T" bracket needs to come from a '99 - '00 Civic Si
You can also use the gauge cluster, it's a direct swap.
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Which engine do you have? B20B or B20Z? The engine you have is not from a '96 CR-V, CR-Vs didn't come until '97, the manual transmission wasn't offered until '98.
If you have a '99 - '01 CR-V you can use the engine haness in a '99 - '00 Civic (I have personally done this before and can confirm that it works and is the easiest way to do this swap) I think you can use a '98 CR-V harness as well, as I believe they were OBD2B, but I'm not 100% sure.
You can't use the transmission or axles, those will need to come from a '94 - '01 Integra, '99 - '00 Civic Si or '94 - '97 Del Sol VTEC. Shift linkage needs to come from either a '94 - '01 Integra or '99 - '00 Civic Si.
The intake manifold wont clear the hood on the early B20s. Replace it with an LS manifold. (use an LS throttle cable and bracket) If it's a late model B20 (B20Z) it will fit.
You can use the driver's side fluid filled mount from the CR-V itself along with the cast iron post mount on the engine (this will drop the engine down more than the 2 post Si mount most people tell you to use) Rear "T" bracket needs to come from a '99 - '00 Civic Si
You can also use the gauge cluster, it's a direct swap.
If you have a '99 - '01 CR-V you can use the engine haness in a '99 - '00 Civic (I have personally done this before and can confirm that it works and is the easiest way to do this swap) I think you can use a '98 CR-V harness as well, as I believe they were OBD2B, but I'm not 100% sure.
You can't use the transmission or axles, those will need to come from a '94 - '01 Integra, '99 - '00 Civic Si or '94 - '97 Del Sol VTEC. Shift linkage needs to come from either a '94 - '01 Integra or '99 - '00 Civic Si.
The intake manifold wont clear the hood on the early B20s. Replace it with an LS manifold. (use an LS throttle cable and bracket) If it's a late model B20 (B20Z) it will fit.
You can use the driver's side fluid filled mount from the CR-V itself along with the cast iron post mount on the engine (this will drop the engine down more than the 2 post Si mount most people tell you to use) Rear "T" bracket needs to come from a '99 - '00 Civic Si
You can also use the gauge cluster, it's a direct swap.
Swap has 220K on it Is there anything you guys recommend I check/change before I drop it in? I drove it when it was in the CR-V and it drove and sounded healthy.
Also, my hatch came with hasport mounts, so would I just need to change the brackets that you mentioned above and still be able to use my mounts?
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Re: '96 CR-V B20 swap into a '00 Civic Hatch CX - Questions!
what engine did you have before? Most of the D and B mounts are different.
I did my wife's 99 Sedan last year, there is a thread floating around with parts prices and all of the swap info.
I did my wife's 99 Sedan last year, there is a thread floating around with parts prices and all of the swap info.
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You can reuse your mounts. Because it's a CR-V engine the driver's side bracket should bolt up fine, most other B-series engines would require swapping the timing belt bracket.
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Which transmission do you recommend? I also plan to order a new clutch/flywheel, any brands you recommend for daily driving?
Thanks for all your help!! Below is a pic of the poor motor in need of loving. I will clean it up/degrease it nice and repaint the valve cover before installation.
If I wanted to install power steering into my hatch, would I be able to take the P/S pump, reservoir, lines, hoses etc. from this CR-V as well? Or would I need that from a civic? I know I need a Power rack as well.
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Re: '96 CR-V B20 swap into a '00 Civic Hatch CX - Questions!
I think I may be a little more confused now. lol. The Hasport mounts are for a D series or B Series?
Here are some of the parts I ordered when I did mine. 99 Civic Sedan.
$54.50 Innovative Mounts 96-00 Honda Civic Driver Side Sub Bracket for B and D Series(Ebay)
$59.00 MMR B-SERIES SWAP A/C COMPRESSOR BRACKET 92-00 HONDA CIVIC 94-97 DEL SOL(Amazon)
$60.69 HONDA CIVIC SI B16 ENGINE MOTOR MOUNT SWAP T BRACKET(Ebay)
$23.99 Wild-us OBD2B to OBD1 ECU Jumper Conversion Harness Adapter(Amazon)
$25 OBD2B to OBD1 FUEL INJECTOR CONVERSION HARNESS(Ebay)
I used the 99 Civic AC Compressor.
I had an innovative Driver side mount that I was using on the EG so I needed the additional Sub Bracket to use it on the 99.
The CRV Trans mount looks like it will work.
I don't know if that is OBD1 or OBD2, Mine did not have the Crank position sensor on the timing cover, actually I never actually looked to see if the mount was on the OIL pump but if you plan to stay OBD2 you want to double check that, make sure your oil pump had the CPK sensor mount and hopefully the sensor as well, that will make things easier.
I did have some issue with the ALternator Bracket and plug.
My 99 CIvic Harness had OBD2 injector clips and the motor had OBD1 Injectors so I got that conversion harness and had to remove the corner tabs inside to make it work. I just used a red hot paper clip and they burned away easily.
You may need an OBD2 Distributor adapter as well, There is an OBD2 Small and OBD2 Big. I'm not sure what is stock on the CRV, my B20 was previously swapped into an EG I assume the I swapped it into another EG then the 99 Civic, the engine is a ****. lol
Power steering I believe I used a LS Pump, LS Bracket and EG Power steering high pressure line.
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I did end up having some overheating issues on hot days, a dual core aluminum radiator along with shroud and fans sorted that out.
Here are some of the parts I ordered when I did mine. 99 Civic Sedan.
$54.50 Innovative Mounts 96-00 Honda Civic Driver Side Sub Bracket for B and D Series(Ebay)
$59.00 MMR B-SERIES SWAP A/C COMPRESSOR BRACKET 92-00 HONDA CIVIC 94-97 DEL SOL(Amazon)
$60.69 HONDA CIVIC SI B16 ENGINE MOTOR MOUNT SWAP T BRACKET(Ebay)
$23.99 Wild-us OBD2B to OBD1 ECU Jumper Conversion Harness Adapter(Amazon)
$25 OBD2B to OBD1 FUEL INJECTOR CONVERSION HARNESS(Ebay)
I used the 99 Civic AC Compressor.
I had an innovative Driver side mount that I was using on the EG so I needed the additional Sub Bracket to use it on the 99.
The CRV Trans mount looks like it will work.
I don't know if that is OBD1 or OBD2, Mine did not have the Crank position sensor on the timing cover, actually I never actually looked to see if the mount was on the OIL pump but if you plan to stay OBD2 you want to double check that, make sure your oil pump had the CPK sensor mount and hopefully the sensor as well, that will make things easier.
I did have some issue with the ALternator Bracket and plug.
My 99 CIvic Harness had OBD2 injector clips and the motor had OBD1 Injectors so I got that conversion harness and had to remove the corner tabs inside to make it work. I just used a red hot paper clip and they burned away easily.
You may need an OBD2 Distributor adapter as well, There is an OBD2 Small and OBD2 Big. I'm not sure what is stock on the CRV, my B20 was previously swapped into an EG I assume the I swapped it into another EG then the 99 Civic, the engine is a ****. lol
Power steering I believe I used a LS Pump, LS Bracket and EG Power steering high pressure line.
p75 ECU
I did end up having some overheating issues on hot days, a dual core aluminum radiator along with shroud and fans sorted that out.
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You can use the CR-V manifold and then fab something up after. I bought a 2.5 universal high flow cat, some pipe and flanges and had this welded together. It fits like OEM, looks stock, keeps you legal and keeps everyone happy
A B20 will be pretty happy with whatever you bolt up to it. You can kind of use your driving preference to pick a transmission for this engine. If you like long gears go LS, if you like short gearing go B16/Type R. If you want something in the middle go GS-R. If I building it for myself I'd probably go GS-R.
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Use the bracket and pump from the CR-V, get everything else from any '96 - '00 Civic with power steering. If you want AC make sure you get the AC bracket from the CR-V, a D-series compressor bolts right up to it.
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Is it try that the b20 starter will not work with b-series transmissions? I was told I would need a 94-01 LS Starter. Just want to confirm before I order a new one.
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I used the LS starter. From what I read you need the LS starter or other B-Series I'm sure will work. What trans are you planning to go with? I initially had a B16 transmission with super short gears and it was honestly pretty awesome. That transmission had some issues so I swapped in a LS transmission and it has worked great, little bit more reasonable on the freeway.
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Ohh just a note, the stock 99 Civic Coupe exhaust bolted right up to the B-Series Megan header I used. I eventually swapped it with the cat back and test pipe I had and it felt like it was running a lot better.
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I used the LS starter. From what I read you need the LS starter or other B-Series I'm sure will work. What trans are you planning to go with? I initially had a B16 transmission with super short gears and it was honestly pretty awesome. That transmission had some issues so I swapped in a LS transmission and it has worked great, little bit more reasonable on the freeway.
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hay guys trying to figure out why my fan isnt working on my b20b4 with a p75-3 head. i see i have no plug connecting to the sensor and i dont see an existing plug that is supposed to go to it. is there anyone that knows what i a talking about?
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