eswint2010

I just purchased my 05 s2000 with 100k miles, i've had it for about a week and noticed that sometimes it tries to grind while i'm going into second gear no certain rmps just randomly. After it grinds i almost have to force the shifter into first. it loosens back up after a few more shifts but i'm not sure what the problem is. i think it may be the synchros.
Help Plesase!

Rtzx9r

I'd start with changing out the tranny fluid. Pick up 2 qts at Honda and do it- easy and may take care of the issue.

Black S2K

u shouldnt be downshifting into first

White Smoke

DO NOT FORCE THE SHIFTER INTO FIRST! Do not put the car in first unless you are stopped or very, very close to it. Like <3MPH... That resistance is normal.

Start by changing your transmission fluid, this will more then likely cure some or all of the grinding. Different fluids can be used for different temps. Understand that while the car is cold it will be harder to shift, and this is 100% normal.

Boots

^this man speaks the truth...i always warm my car up at least 5 minutes and its still notchy, its just the nature of the beast...it is a direct drive transmission which means no linkage, so naturally its going to be notchy

mattmatt57

use synchromesh from hardtopguy.com it helps.

eswint2010

The fluid was changed 2 months ago, I always let the car warm up before I drive, and I mean while shifting into first at a stop.
It's grindy while going into second of I shift faster, and if it grinds when I shift fast then it starts getting harder to put into first.

Boots

you cant slam shift this thing man...you have to learn to finesse it...and dont put anything in it thats not honda manual transmission fluid, leave synchromesh to the government motor cars

eswint2010

If you can't shift it fast what's the fun in having it?
And only Honda fluid? I heard bg has some good stuff for it.

Black S2K

if u know how to shift u can shift fast. but forcing it into gear no matter what gear it is its a sign of poor driving technique.

Boots

exactly, like i said, you have to finesse it....thanks dave

eswint2010

I guess I don't know what you mean by "finess" I've driven many standards and never had a problem, can you explain for me? I'm really trying to enjoy this car but it's not going well..

Boots

eswint2010

Just please help me out guys, i want to get this fixed so I can actually start enjoying the car..

Black S2K

ok when driving normal or even spirited basicly anytime that ur not racing someone in a straight line practice double clutching but without the clutching when u shift shift slow and feel the lever pop out of gear into neutral and then put it in gear make fluid. but for ur tranny i duno do what everyone says if its still the same then ur syncs r ****ed and u need a rebuild or a new trans.

Boots

thats pretty much how i could explain it, double clutch without actually clutching it....the throws are super short and like i said its a direct drive transmission, so you should be able to feel it going out of gear and then a slight resistance going into the next gear...shift slow for a while until you get a feel of the tranny, practice is really all i can say...and if that doesnt fix anything, you probably need to rebuild a tranny or find a new one like dave said

eswint2010

I'll try that but, idk how im going to like it compared to what I'm used to..
Thanks for the help guys! If I keep having problems I will have it rebuilt, wish me luck!

Black S2K

one of the hardest things to do is relearning something that ur already comfortable with kinda like learning how to snowboard in switch opposed to regular its like relearning how to ride allover again. that y learning how to drive by urself sux cause u develop bad habits. you should always have someone who knows what he/she is doing go along for a ride with u once in a while and point out ur mistakes

White Smoke

Did you change the fluid yourself or are you going off what someone else has said. The fluid used in this car makes a BIG difference and as I said, so does the temperature. If you have good fluid, and the temp is warm then you need to have your synchros replaced and that my friend is $$$. Rebuild, or replace trans...

eswint2010

Just the guy I bought It from told me, I'm going to change the fluid soon and see if it helps. I was out driving today and I'm gettin the hang of it. And if I do need syncros my brother and I can do it since he does them about once a week:D
What do you reccomend on fluids? And if needed where could I get a good set of syncros?

Boots

the only fluid honda recommends....honda manual transmission fluid

Kyle R

iTrader: (1)

Totally normal.

eswint2010

I've heard some good things about Gm Synchromesh. would that be better than honda fluid?

Boots

no...its a honda, not a GM...the only fluid that should go in that trans is HMTF...its not a civic or an integra bro...and ive answered this question twice in this post already...either take the advice or stop asking the same questions

Arsenal

If it's any help, our old 05 would struggle going into first some times at any temp, and second was slightly notchy especially when cold.

Remember, when shifting from fifth to sixth, turn your hand so that your palm is facing the passenger. This will help from accidentally going into fourth (quite often it happens to people)