4th Gen Civic HB ZC D16 Swap - New Motor Mounts?
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4th Gen Civic HB ZC D16 Swap - New Motor Mounts?
Hi all, first post
I have a std 90 civic hatch with the 70hp mustang eater My car has a 4spd, no ac, no power steering, but it does have the multiport injection.
My std is a sohc, and the d16 is a dohc, so I should get more power. I just purchased a 89 integra ls with the d16 zc clone motor with 5 spd. Even if it's only 40 or 50 hp it's better than nothing. I plan to re build the motor anyway, so I'll probaly throw some perf parts in anyway. To me it's just a toy, I drive it to and from work like I'm in the daytona 500, and every month or so go to the track and run it. That's it! I'm a husband and father and right now it's just a hobby. Maybe one day when it really catches my attention, I'll drop a b18 in and go nuts. I'd really like to drive scca.
Anyway, I've been doing some reading on the web and I found a site that clearly stated that the 89 teg motor won't fit in my civic because the mounts are different. Is this true? I hope it's not! I thought the zc and the D16 are the same motors mostly.
If it is, how difficult is it to custom make some motor mounts? I've looked at some ones for the b16 on ebay (http://www.streetimports.com/mounts/mounts2.jpg), and they look easy enough to make provided you had a solid place to mount them to. Anyone ever done this, or know of any web sites? Can stock mounts from another car be used and bolted and welded in place?
Does anyone know where I could buy the circular pieces in the pics with the polyurethane in them? I thought maybe I could get them at a suspension place or something. Anyone have any ideas?
Does anyone have any advice, ideas, insight on these questions? I really appreciate it!
-John
I have a std 90 civic hatch with the 70hp mustang eater My car has a 4spd, no ac, no power steering, but it does have the multiport injection.
My std is a sohc, and the d16 is a dohc, so I should get more power. I just purchased a 89 integra ls with the d16 zc clone motor with 5 spd. Even if it's only 40 or 50 hp it's better than nothing. I plan to re build the motor anyway, so I'll probaly throw some perf parts in anyway. To me it's just a toy, I drive it to and from work like I'm in the daytona 500, and every month or so go to the track and run it. That's it! I'm a husband and father and right now it's just a hobby. Maybe one day when it really catches my attention, I'll drop a b18 in and go nuts. I'd really like to drive scca.
Anyway, I've been doing some reading on the web and I found a site that clearly stated that the 89 teg motor won't fit in my civic because the mounts are different. Is this true? I hope it's not! I thought the zc and the D16 are the same motors mostly.
If it is, how difficult is it to custom make some motor mounts? I've looked at some ones for the b16 on ebay (http://www.streetimports.com/mounts/mounts2.jpg), and they look easy enough to make provided you had a solid place to mount them to. Anyone ever done this, or know of any web sites? Can stock mounts from another car be used and bolted and welded in place?
Does anyone know where I could buy the circular pieces in the pics with the polyurethane in them? I thought maybe I could get them at a suspension place or something. Anyone have any ideas?
Does anyone have any advice, ideas, insight on these questions? I really appreciate it!
-John
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Re: D16A1 won't fit
hey there John
the engine from the Integra, while similar to a DOHC ZC, has completey different mounting points; you
could probably get it in somehow, but I highly doubt it would be the worth the time. And as far as I know, no-one makes
mounts for this swap. What you are looking for is a JDM DOHC ZC, widely available and getting cheaper as the years go on.
Do a search on this site, you should come up with a ton of matches. As well, you should explore the other engine swap
options which , like the DOHC ZC, also use the stock mounts; you may find that using a USDM engine pays dividends when
it comes to sourcing parts (the SOHC USDM Vtec ZC seems to be popular....).
Here are a couple of ZC web sites for you to check out, if you haven't seen them already:
http://www.geocities.com/chipman_13/zc.html
http://www.gamesbbs.com/~dmoore/zc.htm
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/
http://www.phatwhippincrx.20m.com/photo6.html
http://www.88-crx.com/ZC_Page/ZC%20Swap.htm
these are from my old bookmarks, so some are better than others, but there is a ton of stuff on-line.
good luck & have fun.
greg v
the engine from the Integra, while similar to a DOHC ZC, has completey different mounting points; you
could probably get it in somehow, but I highly doubt it would be the worth the time. And as far as I know, no-one makes
mounts for this swap. What you are looking for is a JDM DOHC ZC, widely available and getting cheaper as the years go on.
Do a search on this site, you should come up with a ton of matches. As well, you should explore the other engine swap
options which , like the DOHC ZC, also use the stock mounts; you may find that using a USDM engine pays dividends when
it comes to sourcing parts (the SOHC USDM Vtec ZC seems to be popular....).
Here are a couple of ZC web sites for you to check out, if you haven't seen them already:
http://www.geocities.com/chipman_13/zc.html
http://www.gamesbbs.com/~dmoore/zc.htm
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/
http://www.phatwhippincrx.20m.com/photo6.html
http://www.88-crx.com/ZC_Page/ZC%20Swap.htm
these are from my old bookmarks, so some are better than others, but there is a ton of stuff on-line.
good luck & have fun.
greg v
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