4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage
06-17-2005, 11:05 PM
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4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage
dont really want a roll bar or cage in my car, couldnt u mount two of them to where the back seat is if the back was gutted? and the other two i was told i could get a sparco backing plate and mount it safely to the floor that way.
just need confirmation about mounting it to where rear seats use to be is that possible?
just need confirmation about mounting it to where rear seats use to be is that possible?
06-17-2005, 11:20 PM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (Ba4)
I can tell you right now everyone who knows what they're talking about is going to tell you to not do it.
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06-18-2005, 01:20 PM
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not for looks i want get a sparco seat but u need a harness anyway to mount ur stock buckle then??
and no they dont make harness bar for 90 hatchback
only reason im asking is cuase i want a aftermarket seat but in order to use the harness u gotta invest alot of money into it, so then is there anyway to moun the stock buckle and use ur stock seat belt
do ppl do this?
and no they dont make harness bar for 90 hatchback
only reason im asking is cuase i want a aftermarket seat but in order to use the harness u gotta invest alot of money into it, so then is there anyway to moun the stock buckle and use ur stock seat belt
do ppl do this?
06-18-2005, 01:46 PM
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Re: (Ba4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there anyway to mount the stock buckle and use your stock seat belt
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yeah.
mount it to the floor and use a plate on the backside or incorporate it into your seat slider.
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yeah.
mount it to the floor and use a plate on the backside or incorporate it into your seat slider.
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06-18-2005, 05:44 PM
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u sure it comes with a mount for the seat buckle? on my stock seats buckle is on the seat those a bitch to take off? never really looked at it but im sure its on the seat
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u sure it comes with a mount for the seat buckle? on my stock seats buckle is on the seat those a bitch to take off? never really looked at it but im sure its on the seat</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, I've gone through about 4 or 6 sets of seats. It's just one big bolt to take it off.
Yep, I've gone through about 4 or 6 sets of seats. It's just one big bolt to take it off.
06-18-2005, 09:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k thanx, u think the sparco bracket has a hole for a buckle? </TD></TR></TABLE>
nope.
nope.
06-18-2005, 11:16 PM
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Re: (90sohcHATCH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90sohcHATCH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mounted my harness's to the old seat belts in the rear center and the front 2 to the seat bolts</TD></TR></TABLE>
u cant do that on 90-91 hatchs cause there wont be no hole on the driver side cuase the seat belt is mounted in the door
u cant do that on 90-91 hatchs cause there wont be no hole on the driver side cuase the seat belt is mounted in the door
06-19-2005, 04:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u cant do that on 90-91 hatchs cause there wont be no hole on the driver side cuase the seat belt is mounted in the door</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is a hole, just lift the carpet on the driverside and you should see it.
there is a hole, just lift the carpet on the driverside and you should see it.
06-19-2005, 05:36 AM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (Ba4)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ba4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont really want a roll bar or cage in my car...?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are cornering at high enough G load that you want to think about harnesses, then you should consider rollover protection first and the rollover protection should be an integral part of your safety equipment improvements.
If you are cornering at high enough G load that you want to think about harnesses, then you should consider rollover protection first and the rollover protection should be an integral part of your safety equipment improvements.
06-19-2005, 05:43 AM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (George Knighton)
You don't want to be wearing harnesses without rollover protection in this kind of incident.
06-19-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (George Knighton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't want to be wearing harnesses without rollover protection in this kind of incident.</TD></TR></TABLE>
god.. every time i see these pics i want to put a Cage in my Daily! >_O
You don't want to be wearing harnesses without rollover protection in this kind of incident.</TD></TR></TABLE>
god.. every time i see these pics i want to put a Cage in my Daily! >_O
06-19-2005, 11:53 AM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (OptimusPrimeX)
"You don't want to be wearing harnesses without rollover protection in this kind of incident.
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the **** will still crush with oem belts or harnesses what point are you makin?
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the **** will still crush with oem belts or harnesses what point are you makin?
06-19-2005, 12:01 PM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (itellyawhat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itellyawhat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the **** will still crush with oem belts or harnesses what point are you makin?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Safety equipment is designed as a whole package, everything working together.
In your modern car with OEM equipment, as the roof crushes down the driver is pushed over in the car, and the belts are not restricting sideways movement. At some point, the seat is designed to break, allowing you to be pushed over toward the centre of the car, a path of least resistence designed to save your life.
I'm reminded of a case of a BMW M3 coupe that rolled off of Turn 3 at Summit Point. The roof was crushed down to the beltline, but both driver and instructor got out in one piece because the OEM equipment worked perfectly and they were pushed down in the car toward the center into each other's laps and they were both fine until they could be cut out.
When you start making modifications to this sytem without due consideration to the facts and consequences, you are placing your life and limb at risk, and you are also risking anyone who gets in the car with you.
My specific point is that rollover protection should come before harnesses.
You want to avoid a situation where the roof is collapsing onto a hapless occupant who's locked firmly into a seat. This situation makes a broken neck and permanent disability more likely than a sane person would want to risk.
The rollover protection should come first, and the harnesses, seat braces and seats should all be considered as a part of an overall safety package designed to improve, not diminish, the occupant's survivability rate in the event of catastrophe.
the **** will still crush with oem belts or harnesses what point are you makin?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Safety equipment is designed as a whole package, everything working together.
In your modern car with OEM equipment, as the roof crushes down the driver is pushed over in the car, and the belts are not restricting sideways movement. At some point, the seat is designed to break, allowing you to be pushed over toward the centre of the car, a path of least resistence designed to save your life.
I'm reminded of a case of a BMW M3 coupe that rolled off of Turn 3 at Summit Point. The roof was crushed down to the beltline, but both driver and instructor got out in one piece because the OEM equipment worked perfectly and they were pushed down in the car toward the center into each other's laps and they were both fine until they could be cut out.
When you start making modifications to this sytem without due consideration to the facts and consequences, you are placing your life and limb at risk, and you are also risking anyone who gets in the car with you.
My specific point is that rollover protection should come before harnesses.
You want to avoid a situation where the roof is collapsing onto a hapless occupant who's locked firmly into a seat. This situation makes a broken neck and permanent disability more likely than a sane person would want to risk.
The rollover protection should come first, and the harnesses, seat braces and seats should all be considered as a part of an overall safety package designed to improve, not diminish, the occupant's survivability rate in the event of catastrophe.
06-19-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (OptimusPrimeX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OptimusPrimeX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
god.. every time i see these pics i want to put a Cage in my Daily! >_O</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do it
god.. every time i see these pics i want to put a Cage in my Daily! >_O</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do it
06-19-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (thenick)
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Do it</TD></TR></TABLE>I am 
w00t for cages 
Do it
</TD></TR></TABLE>I am w00t for cages
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Re: 4 point harness where to mount w/o roll bar/cage (Ba4)
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my suggestions:
1. on your future hospital bed
2. on your future tombstone
pick one.
my suggestions:
1. on your future hospital bed
2. on your future tombstone
pick one.