shane 271

Hey everyone, just got my first honda a 1995 civic ex 5 speed with a d16z6 and i am planning on changing the manual transmission fluid within the next few days. The owner's manual says to change the manual transmission fluid with 10w30 or 10w40 motor oil but i am wondering if i can use the honda genuine manual transmission fluid in the green and silver bottle without having any problems? I searched quite a bit and couldn't find a clear answer whether or not it would be okay. Any help would be much appreciated.

deschlong

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Use 10w30 or 10w40, non-synthetic.

carlos8

I always use 10w40 in all my Hondas whit out problems.

My friend use GM synchromesh in his Type R and drag EG.

Other shops friends use Honda MTF, GM synchromesh or 10w40 with the same result, apart for the price.

B_Swapped93

as said 10w-40 or Honda MTF if you want to pay extra but it's pointless on your application.

shane 271

So would regular 10w40 pennzoil yellow bottle or castrol gtx be okay in temperatures that are usually mid 60s degrees and does not go above 80 or drop below 30 degrees? Also how is Honda MTF pointless? The reason i ask is because i have a hard time getting into reverse and sometimes downshifting into 2nd and ive heard that honda mtf has helped some people with this problem.

instrument

Pennzoil synchromesh in a yellow bottle works great

B_Swapped93

yes just cheap 10w-40 is ok to use. It's 1:was never intended to be used on the older Honda's, the cheap stuff will do it's like using 91 oct or full synth on a daily driven d16y7.

Sccacivic1997

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I use royal purple synchromesh

Mr. Dabolina

I always use Honda MTF. Ya it's more expensive but it's what the manual recommends and you only need 2 quarts for a full fill.... It's not like we're filling a 700R4 with 12 quarts of fluid. Haha

crazyhouse2011

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Honda-Manual-Transmission-Fluid-MTF-Single-Quart-/400611501426?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d464e6572&vxp=mtr

93egSLEEPER

Honda MTF. Period. /thread

94EG8

Honda MTF will kill input shaft bearings in those transmissions, it's far, far thinner than the original MTF, it's basically the consistency of water. Plain old 10W30 works great in a '92 - '95 D-series trans. Torco MTF is great stuff as well but not really necessary for what you're doing. If you're having shifting issues fluid isn't going to fix it. That said when shifting to reverse shift into a forward gear first and it will usually go in easier, or shift into reverse when the vehicle is just barely rolling.

deschlong

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This is BAD ADVICE for a 92-95 transmission. Do not do this.

Later transmissions (96+) call for Honda MTF but NOT 92-95 ones.

94EG8

To expound on that a little further Honda MTF kills the input shaft bearings in '96 - '00 transmissions too (same bearings), but they just don't seem to shift right with 10W30 despite being almost identical transmissions, the only real difference being the shift forks and how the detent ***** are setup.

PaleAleS2k

I would use a racing oil with a lot zinc in it but that's just me.

shane 271

Okay so basically using honda mtf will mess up my input shaft bearings, but the newer 10w30 motor oils dont have the right zinc and other minerals that used to be in motor oils back in 1992-1995? Is there any alternatives to these two that will be okay to use and can be found for under $10 dollars a quart? Ive heard ppl mention pennzoil syncromesh, gm syncromeshm, and torco mtf. Any information will be much appreciated.

PaleAleS2k

Take a look at Valvoline Vr-1 10w30 or AMSOIL.

94EG8

Torco MTF works especially well, and it really isn't all that expensive. I think my price locally is around $11/L (this is with a small discount, I think it might be something like $13/L retail)

That said despite what some people say I've had no issues running current non-synthetic 10W30 and I have rebuilt a bunch of these things, the other guys that have rebuilt tons of them say the same thing. The only guys I see complaining about the lack of zinc are the guys that have never rebuilt one of these transmissions.

93egSLEEPER

I was thinking B series. My bad

shane 271

I think im going to go with the 10w30 non synthetic motor oil. Any recommendations on what brand oil is the best for these transmission? Thanks for your help!

94EG8

A lot of guys that build more of these things than I do seem to like Supertech from Walmart. I use whatever I have laying around (usually Castrol)

NotARaCist

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Pretty much. Oil is oil. Toss whatever 10w30 dino you have in there and call it a day. This thread has gone on WAY too far for such a simple-to-answer question.

apexi_rsx

ive used 10w30 synthetic in my 98 ex trans with no problems I just notice it seems to wear out fast and shifting starts going to shyt after about 20-40k miles. I put in Honda mtf this time so far 20k it still shifts like butter unlike the 10w-30...

Jeremy gill

wrong. The manual states use 10w30 motor oil or 10w40 motor oil if you are planning on doing a lot of highway driving

Freedo_Civegra