syncrotech carbon syncros vs oem
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syncrotech carbon syncros vs oem
i plan on getting a rebuilt y8 tranny from syncrotech but im wondering if i should go with their carbon syncros or orm ones
i dont really beat on my car or race it but what would be the pros and cons of the carbons?
i dont really beat on my car or race it but what would be the pros and cons of the carbons?
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I have carbon synchros and i beat on it every once in a while, you can't really feal a difference. So far it's holding up and I am only at 10lbs of boost.
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I was under the impression they will last longer, especially under abuse.
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They last longer, but the bigger benefit is they will slow the gear down quicker so there's less wear on sleeves and hubs when shifting quickly. They do make a difference shifting at high RPM. For the very little bit extra they cost I'd use them.
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are these them number 9?? the oem ones are 150..
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry 2=2000&catcgry3=2DR+EX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=MT+ MAINSHAFT+%28SOHC%29
and the carbon ones here are 200
http://shop.synchrotech-transmissions.com/Pro-Series-Carbon-Synchro-Set-1-5-89-00-SYN-111.htm
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry 2=2000&catcgry3=2DR+EX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=MT+ MAINSHAFT+%28SOHC%29
and the carbon ones here are 200
http://shop.synchrotech-transmissions.com/Pro-Series-Carbon-Synchro-Set-1-5-89-00-SYN-111.htm
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If you try a brass synchro on a gear and try to turn the synchro against the gear cone it's usually possible. A carbon synchro will normally lock right on there.
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**** i just talked to them they dont use oem honda for thr brass synchros they "make there own" brass ones...
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
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**** i just talked to them they dont use oem honda for thr brass synchros they "make there own" brass ones...
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
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**** i just talked to them they dont use oem honda for thr brass synchros they "make there own" brass ones...
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
Syncrotech is well known to be one of THE top notch transmission shops and everyone who cares about their Honda's uses them and their products, all with great success and satisfaction. Their quality is over and beyond most everyone else.
Really, just go with the carbon synchros, not only will they outlive OEM or any third party brass synchros, they perform better in all conditions. It's that simple. And the cost difference is not even enough to be bother with. Cheaper than doing another set of brass synchros in X amount of years.
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On the motor? The only impossible to get to one is the rear main when the tranny is installed, so that's the only critical seal when the tranny is off to be replaced.
The tranny itself has seals you would consider replacing if you are doing it yourself, if you have a shop doing it, you could request to have the shift linkage seals/boots replaced, the ISB seal replaced and both axle seals replaced.
The rest of the motor seals can be accessed regardless if the tranny is in the car or not so can be done now or later without issue.
The tranny itself has seals you would consider replacing if you are doing it yourself, if you have a shop doing it, you could request to have the shift linkage seals/boots replaced, the ISB seal replaced and both axle seals replaced.
The rest of the motor seals can be accessed regardless if the tranny is in the car or not so can be done now or later without issue.
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Wait, so are you buying a rebuilt or are you rebuilding one of your own? If you buy one from synchrotech than you shouldn't have to worry about any seals to replace as they take care of all of that.
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Also, I would assume a shop would replace all the seals on a rebuild, but you never know and may wish to know what seals have the most need to be replaced in a rebuild situation just to know the shop is doing the full meal deal. Not all shops are equal.
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are these them number 9?? the oem ones are 150..
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**** i just talked to them they dont use oem honda for thr brass synchros they "make there own" brass ones...
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
hmm should i just send them some real oem ones or should i just use theres..
he actually wanted me to get there carbon ones
ugh idk wat to do i just shipped my tranny out to them today
As far as OEM synchros go. You can't buy a set of synchros from Honda as a set, you have to get them with the sleeves and hubs, and they're expensive, and other than 5th gear they're discontinued anyway.
If you want my 2 cents, spend the extra $50 buy the carbon ones. That said Synchrotech's brass synchros should be just as good as the OEM ones.
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That's for 5th gear synchro only (it also includes the sleeve, hub and spring)
Synchrotech makes a lot of their own parts, they also make their own hardened sleeves and hubs, synchro springs, as well as the 3rd gear synchro gear for B/H-series vtec transmissions. Before synchrotech you couldn't get most of those parts on their own (you could get brass synchros from Transparts, but they sucked) I've used most of these parts with the exception of Synchrotech's brass synchros, I've had great luck with them, and their carbon synchros.
As far as OEM synchros go. You can't buy a set of synchros from Honda as a set, you have to get them with the sleeves and hubs, and they're expensive, and other than 5th gear they're discontinued anyway.
If you want my 2 cents, spend the extra $50 buy the carbon ones. That said Synchrotech's brass synchros should be just as good as the OEM ones.
Synchrotech makes a lot of their own parts, they also make their own hardened sleeves and hubs, synchro springs, as well as the 3rd gear synchro gear for B/H-series vtec transmissions. Before synchrotech you couldn't get most of those parts on their own (you could get brass synchros from Transparts, but they sucked) I've used most of these parts with the exception of Synchrotech's brass synchros, I've had great luck with them, and their carbon synchros.
As far as OEM synchros go. You can't buy a set of synchros from Honda as a set, you have to get them with the sleeves and hubs, and they're expensive, and other than 5th gear they're discontinued anyway.
If you want my 2 cents, spend the extra $50 buy the carbon ones. That said Synchrotech's brass synchros should be just as good as the OEM ones.
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ok yea im haveing them do a full rebuild with carbon synchros .. ill just do the rear main seal when its out.. also need to figure out if i want lsd..