#GEH issues, 00 Si b16a2 sputtering/dying
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#GEH issues, 00 Si b16a2 sputtering/dying
So for the last week or so I've noticed my car sputtering
I was idling in front of my house and it just died
I was cruising and it just died
Each of those times it started again but I had to give it some gas as I turned the key
I didn't drive the car all weekend and I tried to start it this morning and it just wouldn't. It'll crank and it DOES start for half a second as it sputters and dies
I actually made it about 10 ft driving before it died again and it took 5-6 cranks and giving it gas before I could park it back where I had it
I hear the fuel pump (walbro 255) priming
I see it's getting fuel pressure (40-45)
It's getting spark because it does start just stumbles and dies
AFR does show lean when it's on idle but fine under load
What are we thinking peeps?
B16a2
RC 550
Walbro 255
EC Tune
I was idling in front of my house and it just died
I was cruising and it just died
Each of those times it started again but I had to give it some gas as I turned the key
I didn't drive the car all weekend and I tried to start it this morning and it just wouldn't. It'll crank and it DOES start for half a second as it sputters and dies
I actually made it about 10 ft driving before it died again and it took 5-6 cranks and giving it gas before I could park it back where I had it
I hear the fuel pump (walbro 255) priming
I see it's getting fuel pressure (40-45)
It's getting spark because it does start just stumbles and dies
AFR does show lean when it's on idle but fine under load
What are we thinking peeps?
B16a2
RC 550
Walbro 255
EC Tune
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Re: #GEH issues, b16a2 sputtering/dying
I think you should remove the engine, ship it to me, I'll diagnose it in my EG hatch as a daily driver, and send you a D16 in the meantime.
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Re: #GEH issues, b16a2 sputtering/dying
Can you datalog on your ecu?
When it dies you need to get out and see what's failing. Could be a loose wire from the icm to the ecm. Could be a loose wire from the ecu to the fuel pump relay.
When it dies you need to get out and see what's failing. Could be a loose wire from the icm to the ecm. Could be a loose wire from the ecu to the fuel pump relay.
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Re: #GEH issues, b16a2 sputtering/dying
Distributor cap? Take it off and clean it. If it's getting clogged up with scoring I could see it causing that issue.
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Re: #GEH issues, b16a2 sputtering/dying
Clogged IACV or fuel pump going bad. My Integra did this when I first bought it.....it turned out to be the fuel pump. And yes, it would still prime. It just wouldn't stay pumping enough to keep the car running.
Also, maybe a bad main relay?
Also, maybe a bad main relay?
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Re: #GEH issues, b16a2 sputtering/dying
Originally Posted by austinkli
Distributor cap? Take it off and clean it. If it's getting clogged up with scoring I could see it causing that issue.
Originally Posted by usdm420
Clogged IACV or fuel pump going bad. My Integra did this when I first bought it.....it turned out to be the fuel pump. And yes, it would still prime. It just wouldn't stay pumping enough to keep the car running.
Also, maybe a bad main relay?
Also, maybe a bad main relay?
Looking into pump and relay as well
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Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
Since my other thread was moved and died
update from yesterday
b16a2,log manifol/turdbo,RC550s,Walbro 255
I've been having this issue where the car randomly dies,literally
I left it parked all weekend,Monday morning I tried to start it and it'll start but wont stay on. It starts for a brief second but sounds like its not getting enough fuel, i tried to give it some gas as i turned the key but no luck
After work I tried again and it started right away
I let it idle for about 10 minutes and it died on its own. I kept my eye on the fuel pressure gauge and even when it died, it never lost pressure,lowest point maybe 35psi
Tried to start it again and if I didnt give it any gas as I turn the key, it wont start,but if i give it some gas it starts
I let it sit and idle maybe 4-5 more times, after about 10 minutes,it just dies on its own everytime. It starts again every time by giving it some gas while turning the key..
I'm ruling out alternator because battery would've been drained after all this but it wasnt
I dont think it's ignition related because it does start, just sounds like its not getting enough fuel, (BUT GAS PRESSURE GAUGE SAYS PRESSURE DOE)
Fuel pump can be heard priming
My buddy and I literally stood by the car dumbfounded
update from yesterday
b16a2,log manifol/turdbo,RC550s,Walbro 255
I've been having this issue where the car randomly dies,literally
I left it parked all weekend,Monday morning I tried to start it and it'll start but wont stay on. It starts for a brief second but sounds like its not getting enough fuel, i tried to give it some gas as i turned the key but no luck
After work I tried again and it started right away
I let it idle for about 10 minutes and it died on its own. I kept my eye on the fuel pressure gauge and even when it died, it never lost pressure,lowest point maybe 35psi
Tried to start it again and if I didnt give it any gas as I turn the key, it wont start,but if i give it some gas it starts
I let it sit and idle maybe 4-5 more times, after about 10 minutes,it just dies on its own everytime. It starts again every time by giving it some gas while turning the key..
I'm ruling out alternator because battery would've been drained after all this but it wasnt
I dont think it's ignition related because it does start, just sounds like its not getting enough fuel, (BUT GAS PRESSURE GAUGE SAYS PRESSURE DOE)
Fuel pump can be heard priming
My buddy and I literally stood by the car dumbfounded
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Re: Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
I had a dead spot in the ignition of my eg. If the key moved just a little bit it would die.
I had to put the key in just the right spot to keep the car running.
Does it die when your driving?
Doesn't sound like it but maybe also the main relay?
I had to put the key in just the right spot to keep the car running.
Does it die when your driving?
Doesn't sound like it but maybe also the main relay?
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Re: Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
Actually it died yesterday after I got it to start for the first time after driving 10ft from my parking spot
I have a spare main relay but how would I check to see if it's bad?
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Re: Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
coil going bad perhaps? the problem is its so intermittent thats the hardest way to track down a problem.
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Re: Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
Nothing seems wrong,starts up, drives fine
it just dies on its own without warning
If it were the coil or any part of the ignition system, wouldn't the car not be able to start? Rather than start but dies after however long it's been running?
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Re: Non-technical general discussion of why my EM1 #GEH keeps dying
pull the ecu and check the pins. I had a 90 prelude that died on me randomly while driving and gave me fits trying to crank it back up. ended up just selling it and the guy had it running a couple days later.
he had to cut/splice the ecu connector as a couple pins corroded off inside the connector. they were barely making contact apparently.
he had to cut/splice the ecu connector as a couple pins corroded off inside the connector. they were barely making contact apparently.