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94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

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Old 04-08-2014, 04:30 PM
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Default 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Ok code43 fuel system...

Ecu is a chipped bod-1 Ls Ecu running euro Ls program

So a little background I bought the car with a blown motor so I have no history on the car. I swapped in a b20b and it was idling high (1800 rpm). I cleaned the iacv and fitv. It was still idling high so I recalibrated the tps and now it idles almost perfect on startup.

But if I first start it up and let it sit after about 3 minutes it throws a code 43 and the idle drops and car has roaming idle and almost dies. If I turn the car off and restart the car there is no code but it will still have roaming idle ( less than 1k rpm). If I start it and drive I have no performance issues at all it pulls hard. And when I come to a stop it idles fine. It never throws a cel any other time. Only when I let it sit in one place and idle.

I have gone thru the code 43 diag. It led me to "possible" Ecu problem but I don't have another good Ecu to swap. Also before I did the diag. I bought a brand new denso o2 sensor and I still had the same problem.

Even tho the code 43 diag. Only points to o2 sensor, white wire, or Ecu these all are ok. I asked a local import shop and looked here on ht and see that other people say it could be fpr, injectors, fuel pump, or main relay. What should be my next move. I wanna get this right.

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When was the fuel filter last replaced? If the answer is "I don't know" or "More than a year ago", replace it. Is the FPR stock, or adjustable? When was it last replaced? If the answer is "I don't know" or "more than two years ago", replace it.
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Default Re: Odd code43 help/input needed

Ok I can buy the fuel filter tomorrow and I will have to locate the fpr. I don't know which one I have. Can anyone tell me what injectors I have by the picture I post or what fuel rail and and regulator I have???
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There's the fpr
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Default Re: Odd code43 help/input needed

Forgot to mention this is a 94' lx civic with a 00' b20b
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No, we can't tell you what injectors you have from that one picture. Remove the injectors and take a few pictures of them from every possible angle, and even then we probably won't be able to tell you. You either need to know, or send them off to have them flow tested.

Replace the fuel filter. If that solves the problem, great. If not, replace the FPR.
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Default Re: Odd code43 help/input needed

I guess what I want to know is if the look like they have enough cc's to run a b20b properly. Even tho i don't know where they came from I was just hoping they look like b-series injectors vs. single cam.
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Honestly, it doesn't matter. All D and B series injectors except the Y7 and B2 are 240cc, including the B20 motor variants.
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Default Re: Odd code43 help/input needed

Oh ok so I'm covered there. Just wanted to make sure that would not be a factor in my code43. I bought the fuel filter but will install it tomorrow. Is there a way to test the fpr without replacing it. Like with a vacuum gauge. I don't have a fuel pressure gauge. The new fpr is $80 rather not replace it if not necessary. I plan on selling the car.
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Default Re: Odd code43 help/input needed

Ok I got fuel pressure tester and hope to test today. I will let you know the results.

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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Add ECU information to your first post.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

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Add ECU information to your first post.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Looks like fuel pressure and filter spec out. So where does that leave us???

You can check it out here:
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Set the video to public.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Lol sorry
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

OK, so your FPR is fine.

This might sound stupid, but I've seen some dumb stuff happen here before...can you post a video of the CEL blinking for us? Just to double check the code. I've seen threads go on for multiple pages diagnosing something that wasn't even a problem before.

Do you have a friend with an OBD1 (92-95) Civic, Accord, or Prelude? Could you maybe coordinate a day off with them to borrow their injectors, reset your ECU, and see if the code goes away?
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

I'll try it tomorrow. I won't be able to get another Ecu.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Don't worry about another ECU quite yet, just see if you can find a friend that'll let you swap injectors. You'll need to reset your ECU, but that's easy - disconnect the battery, try to start the car, then reconnect the battery.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Will the injectors that came with the b20 manifold work. I know the plugs are the same but the fuel rail was wrong because it was Rhd. But can I just swap injectors ???
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Yes.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Ok I wasn't sure if the fitment was the same. I'll swap those out. So first I will let it sit and warm up until the cel comes on then video the blinks. Then I'll swap injectors out and see if the code will come back.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

You dont have to wait for the car to warm up, jump the 2pin connector and record the cel light blinking.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

I went to pull the code but it is not stored in the Ecu. When I jumped the connector I only got a solid light. No code would blink. So obelisk have to try to get the code to come back in tomorrow and make the video.
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Default Re: 94' lx civic/00' b20b swap - Odd code 43 help/input needed

Ok here's the video of the code.

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