Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

[FAQ] Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-15-2003, 04:04 PM
  #26  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SLATER97EX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Canton, Ohio, USA
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Jmunk)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jmunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't need to remove the valve cover to remove the top timing belt cover. Use a screw driver and put pry the plastic out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When doing this much work, why not spend the extra 2 minutes rather than doing a half-*** job?
SLATER97EX is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 04:33 PM
  #27  
Honda-Tech Member
 
cccya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Maine, middle of NO and WHERE, USA
Posts: 1,308
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (SLATER97EX)

go mom in the delsol!
thats cool your parents are into the honda world.
nice write up man!
cccya is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 06:09 PM
  #28  
JV
Who?
 
JV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

Good stuff bro.

How long it take you and your old man to do it?
JV is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 07:10 PM
  #29  
Honda-Tech Member
 
EG(6)SR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

Dam! One of the most comprehensive DIY I've seen posted on the board. I've never had the patience to take pictures of each step that I do.

Whenever I try to make one, I end up getting frustrated with specific part, and forget to take pictures of the rest of the install, so I'm like forget it. Great jop with the write up. Show them noobs and refresh the vets.
EG(6)SR is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 07:23 PM
  #30  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Andres-eh2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Queens, NY, USA
Posts: 5,504
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

nice write up. i read the whole thing, just in case one day my time comes...
Andres-eh2 is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 07:24 PM
  #31  
Honda-Tech Member
 
PriMaTe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 987
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (EG(6)SR)

That was a very thorough write up, i always wondered what was involved in changing the timing belt. Having a picture for each step made things really clear. Thanks for the great write up
PriMaTe is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 08:21 PM
  #32  
New User
 
ELUD THS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RICHMOND, VA, UNITED STATES
Posts: 4,126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (EGEESIX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGEESIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice write up. i read the whole thing, just in case one day my time comes...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ELUD THS is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 09:56 PM
  #33  
Honda-Tech Member
 
brent_G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Colorado springs, CO
Posts: 6,447
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (ELUD THS)

great bit of info... Do you have a write up on valve adjusting and cam install? ? Im gonna be putting a cam, valve springs retainers, cam gear, etc all in my head and woujld like to know how to do it well... You should go to school to be a teacher cause you explain things well
brent_G is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 10:09 PM
  #34  
Junior Member
 
pr0jectezek1el's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (EGEESIX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGEESIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice write up. i read the whole thing, just in case one day my time comes...</TD></TR></TABLE>

me too..
pr0jectezek1el is offline  
Old 10-15-2003, 10:41 PM
  #35  
Honda-Tech Member
 
THE GAME IS THICK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 1,294
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

did you have to re-do the timing with a timing light since you took off the belt? about how long did it take you for the whole thing?
THE GAME IS THICK is offline  
Old 10-16-2003, 06:47 AM
  #36  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
poison's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Where snow is, I am.
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (igotsol!)

Thanks much guys.

It took me and my father about 3 1/2 hours to do since we kept moving around trying to get a "secure" lock on the engine to get the crank bolt off.

Having that removed when it has never been removed before is one PITA.

He also went out to get new PS and AC belts, so that added to the time, didn't take long at all.
poison is offline  
Old 10-16-2003, 07:12 AM
  #37  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Snail Tuning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Wooster, Ohio, usa
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

nice write up ille be doing 3 in the next few weeks so i think im ganna go buy a crank pully wrench. about 60 bucks but sounds worth the money.

tell your mom to turbo that slo
Snail Tuning is offline  
Old 10-16-2003, 07:42 AM
  #38  
Honda-Tech Member
 
1dumbscreenname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: As far south as it gets, Fl
Posts: 1,887
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (BrewerHatch)

very nice how-to

how-to: replace your valvetrain, i am going to want to do this soon so hook me up once your done.
1dumbscreenname is offline  
Old 10-16-2003, 08:36 AM
  #39  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
poison's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Where snow is, I am.
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (bmcc72)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmcc72 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
tell your mom to turbo that slo </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, actually my dad -- being a hard core old school muscle guy, wants to throw an H22A into the del slo =X

I can't imagine her driving around an H22 hybrid. :

poison is offline  
Old 10-16-2003, 08:44 AM
  #40  
DaX
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,114
Received 662 Likes on 524 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

Snap-On makes removing the crank pulley easy. My brother bought this tool and it works like a charm. Just stick a half inch drive ratchet in it and wedge it against the LCA, then use either a breaker bar or an impact.



http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog...talog
DaX is offline  
Old 11-14-2003, 05:24 AM
  #41  
Member
 
tgreaves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Baltimore, maryland, usa
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

Dont forget to turn the crank pully to move the timing belt 3 teeth to take the slack out of the timing belt before tightening the tensioner
tgreaves is offline  
Old 11-14-2003, 06:19 AM
  #42  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
poison's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Where snow is, I am.
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (tgreaves)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont forget to turn the crank pully to move the timing belt 3 teeth to take the slack out of the timing belt before tightening the tensioner</TD></TR></TABLE>

With mini-me's that might be a different story, but with the D16Z6 there wasn't much slack at all.
poison is offline  
Old 11-14-2003, 06:23 AM
  #43  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond, Va, usa
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

i'll be doing this on sunday hopefully. No p/s stuff, no a/c belt, and no cruise control should make it a little easier .
SOHC_MShue is offline  
Old 11-19-2003, 12:59 PM
  #44  
Honda-Tech Member
 
EGbeater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: crank pulley bolt woes

Thanks for putting that info out there, but personally I have wasted enough of my life and broken enough breaker bars trying to loosen Honda crank pulleys by hand - I won't do a timing belt w/o using an impact to get that 17 mm crank bolt loose.

Before I had a compressor and a 1/2" and 3/4" impact, I had friends who worked at shops bust loose the crank pulley with air and then very carefully retighten it just enough to get me home. Then I could easily do the job myself at my house.

On other cars, usually you can cheat and use the starter to bump the crank pulley bolt loose with a breaker bar braced against the floor, but with Honda's reverse rotation engines, all that will accomplish is snapping the head off the bolt (ask me how I know).

Last crank pulley bolt tip - use some blue or red loctite on it when you reinstall it. Loctite will not create strong enough of a bond to make it a problem to remove it again, but it WILL prevent your bolt from loosening by accident if you don't torque it enough.

If the crank pulley bolt comes loose and falls out, it will be followed shortly by crank pulley itself falling off (if it happens while you're driving, a big clue will be the alternator dummy light coming on b/c the belt has just flung itself off).

Then, if you continue to try to make it home like that, the timing belt will chew its way thru the plastic lower timing belt cover in about 10-30 miles (depending on your luck) and eject itself and at that point the motor will cease to operate.

Then you get your cell phone out and call a buddy to tow your dumbass home.

Again, ask me how I know . . . real-life adventures in DIY wrenching.
EGbeater is offline  
Old 11-21-2003, 10:34 PM
  #45  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond, Va, usa
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: crank pulley bolt woes (CRXMR2SM2)

damn we just tried doing my timing belt tonight. The ******* crank pulley bolt wouldn't even come off with an air impact gun . We tried 2 different guns too.
SOHC_MShue is offline  
Old 12-01-2003, 11:41 AM
  #46  
Member
 
tgreaves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Baltimore, maryland, usa
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (DaX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Snap-On makes removing the crank pulley easy. My brother bought this tool and it works like a charm. Just stick a half inch drive ratchet in it and wedge it against the LCA, then use either a breaker bar or an impact.



http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog...talog </TD></TR></TABLE>

How does this stop the pulley from rotating.. Im looking at the picture but I just cant imagine how it works
tgreaves is offline  
Old 12-01-2003, 12:03 PM
  #47  
DaX
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
DaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,114
Received 662 Likes on 524 Posts
Default

When I posted that I was under the assumption that all pulleys were alike...but they're not. This is what we used to do my brother's D16Z6 timing belt...the pulley has a 2" hex shaped hole in it that this piece fits in. The smaller hole in the little arm will accept a 1/2" drive breaker bar or ratchet. We then wedged this up against the front LCA and used another breaker bar on the nut. The only thing this does is hold the pulley still. But I have seen other pulleys on hondas that don't have the hex shaped hole, so this will not work for those. His pulley was a 3 belt pulley [alternator, power steering, AC], but the ones I have seen that don't have the hex shaped hole were two belt pulleys.
DaX is offline  
Old 12-01-2003, 12:16 PM
  #48  
Honda-Tech Member
 
HXvtec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Orlando y0
Posts: 1,355
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Caveman74)

one of the best write ups ive ever seen. good job. this will definately come in handy.
HXvtec is offline  
Old 03-15-2004, 09:14 PM
  #49  
 
wiznutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: palm bch gardens, fl, usa
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (poison)

thanks for the great write-up. i am doing a d15y7 with d16z6 head mini me build-up and want to replace a bunch of stuff while i have everything apart.

92 civic sedan with 113,000 on d15y7
plans for d16z6 head and custom built turbo w/ intercooler
wiznutz is offline  
Old 06-15-2004, 05:09 PM
  #50  
 
playboyace35's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: oakland, ca, usa
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics! (wiznutz)

whats the tq spec for the tensinoer?
playboyace35 is offline  


Quick Reply: [FAQ] Complete DIY How To: Timing Belt/Water Pump Change on a D16Z6 - lots of pics!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:11 PM.