DIY - Rotor Over Hub Conversion
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I'm reviving this old thread for the noobs that are ignorant on this process. Basically i'd like to point out that T A S auto prices for this conversion is extremely inflated. Did some searching and all this could be done for under $220, even cheaper if you can source a hub at a local junkyard
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I'm reviving this old thread for the noobs that are ignorant on this process. Basically i'd like to point out that T A S auto prices for this conversion is extremely inflated. Did some searching and all this could be done for under $220, even cheaper if you can source a hub at a local junkyard
So yes I agree 100%. If you have a lower budget. Sourcing parts from a junk yard and buying remand/refurbished parts is a much cheaper route than buying new!
How about posting up some prices and links......
Just remember, JY and remand parts also have a shorter life span most times!
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I wouldn't say extremely inflated.... you are comparing junk yard and remand parts to brand new OE parts.... Of course they are going to cost more. New + Quality = Costs More!
So yes I agree 100%. If you have a lower budget. Sourcing parts from a junk yard and buying remand/refurbished parts is a much cheaper route than buying new!
How about posting up some prices and links......
Just remember, JY and remand parts also have a shorter life span most times!
So yes I agree 100%. If you have a lower budget. Sourcing parts from a junk yard and buying remand/refurbished parts is a much cheaper route than buying new!
How about posting up some prices and links......
Just remember, JY and remand parts also have a shorter life span most times!
Here's a rundown of prices vs TAS auto $518.58
aftermarket Acura CL hub-$99.47 (pair)
Acura CL BREMBO ROTORS $92.80 (pair)
accord Timken wheel bearing-$64.66 (pair)
Accord EBC brake pads-$34.46 (set)
grand total-$320.07 (includes S&H)
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The only aftermarket hub I can find is from carparts.com, I'm thinking of doing this conversion and I will order from them, and report back.
Here's a rundown of prices vs TAS auto $518.58
aftermarket Acura CL hub-$99.47 (pair)
Acura CL BREMBO ROTORS $92.80 (pair)
accord Timken wheel bearing-$64.66 (pair)
Accord EBC brake pads-$34.46 (set)
grand total-$320.07 (includes S&H)
Here's a rundown of prices vs TAS auto $518.58
aftermarket Acura CL hub-$99.47 (pair)
Acura CL BREMBO ROTORS $92.80 (pair)
accord Timken wheel bearing-$64.66 (pair)
Accord EBC brake pads-$34.46 (set)
grand total-$320.07 (includes S&H)
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Just to clarify a few things.
Wagon and V6 use the same hub and rotor, but the V6 uses the Odyssey wheel bearing(larger) and knuckle.
Front hubs for 90-97 Accords is the same no matter what model/engine.
98 2.3 CL hubs can be used on the above cars for ROH conversion.
260mm rotors from the '98 2.3CL are used on the 90-97 Coupe/Sedan Accords.
Centric 120.40039
280mm rotors from the '98 3.0 CL are used on the 90-97 Wagon/V6 Accords.
Centric 121.40037
Wagon and V6 use the same hub and rotor, but the V6 uses the Odyssey wheel bearing(larger) and knuckle.
Front hubs for 90-97 Accords is the same no matter what model/engine.
98 2.3 CL hubs can be used on the above cars for ROH conversion.
260mm rotors from the '98 2.3CL are used on the 90-97 Coupe/Sedan Accords.
Centric 120.40039
280mm rotors from the '98 3.0 CL are used on the 90-97 Wagon/V6 Accords.
Centric 121.40037
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I think that the 95-97 V6 and the Odyssey use the same knuckles, therefore the wheel bearings are the same size. Difference is that the Accord is HOR and the Odyssey is ROH. That, and the fact that the Accord is a 4-lug hub until 98 when the 6-Gen v6's go to a 5-lug hub. V6 and Odyssey were all 282mm rotors.
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Yea i was just wondering if the V6 CL parts would work on my wagon since I have the 282mm rotors. You answered my question. Thank you. Now off to make it happen!
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The only aftermarket hub I can find is from carparts.com, I'm thinking of doing this conversion and I will order from them, and report back.
Here's a rundown of prices vs TAS auto $518.58
aftermarket Acura CL hub-$99.47 (pair)
Acura CL BREMBO ROTORS $92.80 (pair)
accord Timken wheel bearing-$64.66 (pair)
Accord EBC brake pads-$34.46 (set)
grand total-$320.07 (includes S&H)
Here's a rundown of prices vs TAS auto $518.58
aftermarket Acura CL hub-$99.47 (pair)
Acura CL BREMBO ROTORS $92.80 (pair)
accord Timken wheel bearing-$64.66 (pair)
Accord EBC brake pads-$34.46 (set)
grand total-$320.07 (includes S&H)
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Re: DIY - Rotor Over Hub Conversion - NOW COMPLETE - 56K take a snooze (NGUSPEED)
Hey guys, I have a question about which rotors to buy for a 1991 Accord wagon (CB9) ROH conversion. After doing some research I have decided that I am going to do this swap for my wagon.
To complete the swap I can use the hub and bearing parts listed in the first post of this thread since those are the same for the wagon,
1998 Acura 2.3CL Front Hubs OEM part # - 44600-SY8-A00
1990-1998 Accord Front wheel bearing OEM Part # - 44200-SM1-008
however, I know that the wagon uses the larger rotor size (11.1") so I can't use the 1998 Acura 2.3CL Front Rotors OEM Part # - 45251-S84-A01. Ive read that I can use the 1998 3.0CL rotors but Im having a hard time confirming that this rotor will fit without any issues. Can anyone confirm that this is the correct part number (45251-S84-G00) and that this is the correct rotor I need to match with this ROH wagon conversion?
Here's my reference: 45251-S84-G00 - Genuine Acura Disk, FR. Brake
Also, I've looked into the prelude VTEC rotors as mentioned above, but Im confused on how to do that swap and don't want to swap out any more parts than necessary as I'd like to keep this as simple as possible for future rotor replacements.
To complete the swap I can use the hub and bearing parts listed in the first post of this thread since those are the same for the wagon,
1998 Acura 2.3CL Front Hubs OEM part # - 44600-SY8-A00
1990-1998 Accord Front wheel bearing OEM Part # - 44200-SM1-008
however, I know that the wagon uses the larger rotor size (11.1") so I can't use the 1998 Acura 2.3CL Front Rotors OEM Part # - 45251-S84-A01. Ive read that I can use the 1998 3.0CL rotors but Im having a hard time confirming that this rotor will fit without any issues. Can anyone confirm that this is the correct part number (45251-S84-G00) and that this is the correct rotor I need to match with this ROH wagon conversion?
Here's my reference: 45251-S84-G00 - Genuine Acura Disk, FR. Brake
Also, I've looked into the prelude VTEC rotors as mentioned above, but Im confused on how to do that swap and don't want to swap out any more parts than necessary as I'd like to keep this as simple as possible for future rotor replacements.
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I wouldn't bother with Prelude bits. They are very similar but different enough to be a PITA.
If you have a 90-97 stick with the 97-99 CL bits for 4 lug goodness.
If you have a 90-97 stick with the 97-99 CL bits for 4 lug goodness.
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Thanks! I ordered my 3.0CL 280mm rotors and the above mentioned hubs and bearings. I believe Im all set to go, just waiting for the parts in the mail.
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If you have more time than money check junkyards. Probably you will find them listed with the whole steering knuckle (but if you ask for a knuckle verify that it includes hub and bearing). I just picked up a pair of knuckles for my project car for $35 each by searching locally on car-part.com but I think I was lucky most seem higher priced.
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Holy thread revival
I'm in Europe and recently got myself an Accord (had Preludes and Civics before). I've found out I have to do this conversion as there is no way I will be changing the rotors for track days etc with the stock setup.
Anyone know any websites or companies that have the hubs needed? The 4-lug Acura CL hubs I find today don't look the same as in the OP and I'm worried they may not fit.
One example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Axle-Bearin...S/132377941076
Will be doing this on a 1995 Accord CC7, assuming it will work and that it's not anything (extra) weird about this model.
Will be extremely grateful to anyone who has any info
I'm in Europe and recently got myself an Accord (had Preludes and Civics before). I've found out I have to do this conversion as there is no way I will be changing the rotors for track days etc with the stock setup.
Anyone know any websites or companies that have the hubs needed? The 4-lug Acura CL hubs I find today don't look the same as in the OP and I'm worried they may not fit.
One example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Axle-Bearin...S/132377941076
Will be doing this on a 1995 Accord CC7, assuming it will work and that it's not anything (extra) weird about this model.
Will be extremely grateful to anyone who has any info
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The Accord and the CL use the same bearing. Only the hub is different. Literally, the OE part numbers are identical for the bearings. Some aftermarket suppliers incorrectly list it as a hub assembly bearing because it has the flanges. It's just a bearing. The hub is the part with the wheel studs and a shaft that fits into the bearing.
So in other words you can just straight up use the assemblies for the CL. You don't have to swap bearings off them at all.
So in other words you can just straight up use the assemblies for the CL. You don't have to swap bearings off them at all.
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The hub linked to on ebay up here was a 5 lug hub as well so no go there :\
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The Accord and the CL use the same bearing. Only the hub is different. Literally, the OE part numbers are identical for the bearings. Some aftermarket suppliers incorrectly list it as a hub assembly bearing because it has the flanges. It's just a bearing. The hub is the part with the wheel studs and a shaft that fits into the bearing.
So in other words you can just straight up use the assemblies for the CL. You don't have to swap bearings off them at all.
So in other words you can just straight up use the assemblies for the CL. You don't have to swap bearings off them at all.