sharkcohen

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rmcdaniels &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doh! That's right, I had it backwards. So it's intake retard and exhaust advance. I guess it's a good thing I had a tuner who knows how 4-stroke engines work there when I did mine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sharkcohen

2000 Prelude JRSC 9 psi
auto tranny
EFI PMS
550 cc injectors
Hondata intake gasket
short ram intake
stock header
OEM replacement Random Tech cat
Thermal exhaust
NGK BKR8EIX spark plugs

I made 193 whp with the stock intake, DC header, stock cat, stock exhuast, at 6 psi on a Dynojet, so I can only imagine that I'd be breaking 200 whp now on the same dyno.

keebler65

Posted below is a dyno at 6 PSI. Stock B16A, and fuel "managed" with the hack.



Since then, I've upped it to 10 PSI, and have switched to Uberdata. I have not yet made it back to the dyno. I am running the stock EF fuel pump at 10 PSI though and don't have any issues.

civiccrx21

yeah ive been running the stock HF fuel pump on 440's no problem, what exhaust are you using Keebler?

Tad

ppl who think you need to upgrade ur fuel pump for setups like these don't know wtf they're talkinga bout.

you dont have to worry about ur pump till you're past like 250whp imo

Crazysol

What kind of intake is everyone running. I am running the jackson racing short ram but i was wondering if a col air system would give me more power

Tad

been alot of debate on that over the years I think,
but I think the overall winner of that debate was the shortram,
basically, cold air is nice, but once it goes thru the blower, it's probly gonna reach whatever temp it's gona reach anyways.

so it's better to have shorter tubing with less bends, so the blower can work easier.

STREETWERKZ

any SOHC non vtec JRSCs in here?

just got rid of my B16 nitrous EF hatch...
and bought a BONE STOCK CRX SI...

i dont want to hack this clean car for a turbo setup, and dont want to rewire for another DOHC VTEC (would go ITR if i did swap)

i'd like just some bolt on performance.

D16A6
JRSC 6psi? 9 psi? what can this motor handle
intake and header
clutch and flywheel combo

HOPING for at least 160WHP..... is it possible?

if i cant find anything good on the JRSC, im just gonna go for a STOCK ITR swap with bolt ons.

channy

Dont have the JRSC, but i bought the vortech

b16a1 w/lsd
9 PSIG vortech kit with powercooler
walboro fuel pump
2.5" exhaust
intake
debating on DSM injectors/RC (Suggestions?)
2.0L bottom end sitting in the garage waiting to be built this winter
Stage 3 clutch (overkill?)

I'm really looking forward to seeing what it will run. Anyone have a simular setup to this is a crx? Or willing to take a guess?

caranjo

reading your setup, it did not mention cam tuning! Did you tune your gears and if so, what did you go with? Do you recommend a "standard" setup for a b16a2 (i know each engine reacts differently)?

HYREV2NR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah, actually I think you can buy a fabbed up one from endyn,
probly cost a grip though..

tcable shouldnt be that big of a deal, just get alonger one if needed?</TD></TR></TABLE> I wouldn't have anything to do w/ ENDYN after a few things I've heard from some reputable sources!

HYREV2NR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crazysol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of intake is everyone running. I am running the jackson racing short ram but i was wondering if a col air system would give me more power</TD></TR></TABLE>The cold air intake makes the SC work too hard to get the air in. I've invented the (NO RAM INTAKE) just the filter stuck right onto the T/B. U may have to remove the charcoal canister to do it though. I had the cold air @ first but I noticed a slight difference w/out it.

HYREV2NR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
reading your setup, it did not mention cam tuning! Did you tune your gears and if so, what did you go with? Do you recommend a "standard" setup for a b16a2 (i know each engine reacts differently)?

</TD></TR></TABLE>Jim @ MVM says that is not worth all the $$ U spend in dyno time for what little U gain all across the graph & says it should only be done in a race application. There are plent of Type R owners that have totally stock internals including cams & gears making 240 to 260 WHP.

rmcdaniels

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jim @ MVM says that is not worth all the $$ U spend in dyno time for what little U gain all across the graph & says it should only be done in a race application. There are plent of Type R owners that have totally stock internals including cams & gears making 240 to 260 WHP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I gained 20 HP from cam tuning, and it took about an hour of dyno time.

Short Round

Stock B16 with JRSC @ 8psi, Uberdata, DSM 450's, pos DC headers, 2.25 exhaust

HYREV2NR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rmcdaniels &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I gained 20 HP from cam tuning, and it took about an hour of dyno time.</TD></TR></TABLE>Can't argue w/ dat!!! Maybe I'll ask Jim about doing that @ a later date.

CRVRX

I have always gained from cam gears. I have dynoed 50+ jackson superchargered cars.
I have made as much as 25 whp in the mid range with cam gears alone.

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I wouldn't have anything to do w/ ENDYN after a few things I've heard from some reputable sources! </TD></TR></TABLE>

what, cuz their stepper pulley sux and has belt slippage problems?
would hardly distrust an entire company cuz of that.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jim @ MVM says that is not worth all the $$ U spend in dyno time for what little U gain all across the graph & says it should only be done in a race application. There are plent of Type R owners that have totally stock internals including cams & gears making 240 to 260 WHP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah man jim's probly been payin/charging way too much.
I got my car tuned, 2hrs dyno tuning time, $385
and i never had to pay for any hondata stuff, just chipped ecu

Short Round

it doesnt help that larry tries to sell used AIR manifolds as "brand new" with rusty bolt marks, scratches from firewall contact, etc... then tells the customer that it was "test fit" beforehand lol!

then tells the customer he'll pay for return shipping, only to disappear off the face of the earth when its time for him to pay up...

larry =

then getting called a ricer by HT sponsors COUGHearlCOUGH whom i've bought thousands of $ worth of **** from cuz its Larry from endyn doesnt help either

Seedc2

iTrader: (1)

does anyone know any reputable socal hondata tuners that have experience tuning jrsc setups? (gsr in this case)

Tad

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Short Round &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt help that larry tries to sell used AIR manifolds as "brand new" with rusty bolt marks, scratches from firewall contact, etc... then tells the customer that it was "test fit" beforehand lol!

then tells the customer he'll pay for return shipping, only to disappear off the face of the earth when its time for him to pay up...

larry =

then getting called a ricer by HT sponsors COUGHearlCOUGH whom i've bought thousands of $ worth of **** from cuz its Larry from endyn doesnt help either</TD></TR></TABLE>

DOH!

my_slow_civic

Very nice dyno Short Round

caranjo

If you go with Hondata, is there a need for the rising rate fpr?

rmcdaniels

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by caranjo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you go with Hondata, is there a need for the rising rate fpr?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, if you go with Hondata, then you will buy some larger fuel injectors. RC440's work well and can be had new for less than 300, or some people get used DSM 450's for about 50 and modify them to work on a Honda.

Tad

yeah you want to ditch all the jr fuel ****