ABTDer

for those running 100shot wet systems, what kind of motor mods do you have to it? anyone running bone stock with 100shot?

PM-Performance

i was runnign a bone stock motor on 100 shot . but had external boltons , just the reg stuff

RyanEJ8

itr206, was the 100 shot on the ITR too? If so, what was faster, your 100 shot or 8psi?

I run 75 shot, and will be going to 100 shot, but I'll be building my bottom end to be safe.


[Modified by RyanCivic2000, 9:45 AM 4/3/2003]

PM-Performance

yea it was on the itr . the power output was the same so far.
i got more room to play now though. i will beat my number by quite a bit next time i get to the dyno

laughinxxx

If you tune it right you can do it on a stock block, but don't expect to be going to the track every weekend, run all day, and still put 150,000 miles on the car. I'm contemplating throwing the 100 shot jets in later this season because I'll have the fuel and tuning to do it. I'm worried about getting traction though. 14s and 103 mph traps don't sound very appealing.

RyanEJ8

laughinxxx, do you think a FPR, V-AFC, and 310 cc injectors are going to be enough to tune 100 shot dry on my car? I'm building my block with SRP 10.5:1 pistons and eagle rods, but I want 150,000 miles out of it. Eventually I will buy a Hondata, but that will take time to save more $$$ after I have enough to finally do my shortblock. Also do you think, I should sleeve the block or just use a block guard?

PM-Performance

your nuts if you try to go that high dry on it.
i went 85 shot dry on mine andhad probs with fuel delivery. . . or lack there of. thanks god my car took the 17:1 a/f and didnt blow.
i would advise against it

RyanEJ8

Zex Dry kits for the Mustang and Camaro come with jettings for 75-125 shot, why can't this happen on a Honda too? As long as you find a way to get fuel. Which is what I'm asking, is a FPR, V-AFC, and 310cc injectors enough?


[Modified by RyanCivic2000, 2:26 PM 4/3/2003]

PM-Performance

i dont think youll make it happen safely. but dont take my word on it from experience. read more FAQ"s from ZEX and NOS, call thme and ask em about 100 shot dry on an import and listen to thme laguh at you and transfer tyou to someone else so they can laugh at you too . . . . trust me man , youll be playing with fire with that set up .

I dont know much of anything , im just here

RyanEJ8

See the thing about that is, the difference between imports and domestics on a big shot of n2o, is that the stock domestic block will hold it better than an import. If that block is built what's the difference? I can still get as much fuel in there as the stock Mustang or Camaro....think about it.


[Modified by RyanCivic2000, 3:11 PM 4/3/2003]

PM-Performance

difference in induction and intake manifold designs.
go ahead and do it and let us know how it works
last person i know who put 100 shot dry ZEX on their GSR got towed home after his high 12sec pass.

let me knwo how it works for you man .

laughinxxx

You are going to need to get a fuel pump to run a 100 shot. The Walboro 225 lph regular pressure fuel pump is only 89 shipped from Lightning.
Personally, I won't ever tell anyone to run anything higher than a 75 shot with a single fogger wet kit, much less a single fogger dry kit. Do it right and get direct port. Don't get any NOS kit with powershot noids in it either. They are horrible noids with **** seals. With a wet kit you can run stock injectors and you can tune your car leaner with the VAFC because you won't have to worry about shortening the injector pulse so much that you'll detonate on the bottle.

Pelican

hmm, the difference between a 100 shot on a domestic and a honda?...... Aproximately DOUBLE the shot per cylinder. That's why they can get away with 120 dry.
We can get away with 60 dry.......... It does pay to have the 4 extra cylinders sometimes.

kill bill

keep in mind that with a camaro you have 8 cylinders that the 125 shot is being distributed to, not 4 cylinders like a honda. so your really getting less nitrous per cylinder

Pelican

that too

RyanEJ8

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>keep in mind that with a camaro you have 8 cylinders that the 125 shot is being distributed to, not 4 cylinders like a honda. so your really getting less nitrous per cylinder<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right, but the argument is dry single fogger vs. wet kit. Why is everyone so concerned about a wet kit to run bigger than a 75 shot? With a wet kit, that doesn't change the fact that you're still going to get more nitrous per cylinder in the 4 banger than a V8, think about it. The one disadvantage I know for the dry single fogger kit is the possibility of uneven distribution between cylinders, but how bad will it be? When I read my plugs I don't notice any major differences between the cylinders on a 75 shot. I am trying to be as cost effective as possible that's why I don't want to go blow more money on a new nitrous kit.

Also laughinxxx, I already upgraded to a 255LPH HP fuel pump, sorry I didn't mention that.


Modified by RyanCivic2000 at 8:01 PM 4/15/2003

sickda6

the reason wet is better is because you are atomizing fuel and nitrous before it enters the combustion chamber. there is almost no room for error with dry. if the regulator doesnt get enough love you are screwed, especially at a 100 shot. go buy a nitrous express kit, they dont even make a dry kit, cause they know the deal. my plugs looked the best with nx 50 shot and pulled way harder than my nos 75 and zex 50.

RyanEJ8

The NX Single fogger wet has blown up more Hondas than any nitrous kit. and think about this......if the regulator doesn't get enough love then neither did your nitrous fogger. the zex kit raises fuel pressure by spraying nitrous into the fpr. if the fpr doesn't raise psi then that means there is no nitrous, if there is no nitrous then.........you see where I'm going. The only other reason the fpr wouldn't raise pressure is if the vac line comes off, then your fucked, but that could happen on a 75 shot as easily as a 100 shot, just have to make sure that the line is securely on. hmmmmmm......I still truely don't see what the big deal with wet is. I'm not trying to be a smart *** or anything, I just want to know why I can't use my zex dry kit to safely make more power than 75 shot.

PM-Performance

like i asid , try it and find out. your talking to people here that have been spraying for years, tryign to help you out.
try it and let us know thats all im saying , if you find a way to do it and make it work for a while, im sure more people will be ballsy enough to try it .

Steve Berman

Im running 100 shot plate system on a b18c1.

g2turbo

i sprayed 150 shot(approx. 120hp tp the wheels) on STOCK ls/vtec for about 9 months with no problems!! it was a fogger kit.

Steve Berman

LOL

You have more ***** than me.

laughinxxx

Do you have some sort of evidence to back this up?

I think that you misunderstood a bit. If you want to run anything more than a 75 shot get a direct port kit. It doesn't matter if it is wet or dry, but wet will be easier to set up. With a wet kit the only way that you are going to run lean is if your fuel pump dies or your fuel noid locks up. If you keep do routine checks on your fuel pressure and your noids then this shouldn 't happen to you.
With a dry kit and a large shot you have to worry about injectors, your fuel pump, and tuning.
That's all that I've got. Do what you want.

sickda6

one more thing snapperhead, zex is FLYWHEEL hp. who wants that crap? nx 100 will lay 105 to the ground. stop bein a whus and go direct port. direct port changed my life, not really but its rowdy.

PM-Performance

yo Josh , email me, i wanna check out whats up with the slicks and want to talk to you about soemthing else.