Civic HX 121

Hey guys I have a 00 civic with a b18a1 bottom end and an b16a2 head, car was running great for a while and when i was driving it home from work it died and won't start again. the motor will crank but no matter what i do won't fire. I just replaced the spark plugs, distributor, and spark plug wires trying to get it to start again, but no matter what i do I get nothing. I also have put in 3-4 new ground wires checked the wiring for the map sensor and tps and those are in the correct spots. If anyone could help i would really appreciate it.

turbohatch96y7

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Spark
Air
Fuel
Timing
Compression

Those 5 things gets your motor started, figure out what your missing and go from there

Civic HX 121

i have spark, have air, fuel, timing is correct, not able to check ignition timing(engine not able to idle) have compression. still not firing

93egSLEEPER

Any check engine lights? Check the 15A ECu fuse if you get a solid CEL when cranking.

2LEM1

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Why the hell is this in the All Motor forum instead of the civic section.

Civic HX 121

Because it is and you don't have to be a troll over something stupid. If you want to ask stupid questions like that post that in a forum that cares please ... and no check engine light when cranking. 93egSLEEPER

2LEM1

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Some of us frequent certain sections of the forums so we can avoid all the dumb-*** "my car cranks but won't start" threads. If I wanted to surround myself with idiots trying to get $1500 civics running, I'd hang out in the 92-00 civic section.


If you want to ask stupid questions like that post that in a forum that cares please

Civic HX 121

Nobody likes a troll and if you didn't want to view the thread then you didn't have to open it did you? No you didn't so if you have an answer that will help me cool but if not please stop posting stuff that is wasting my time your time and anyone else's time that this may actually help alright its a pointless and stupid thing to say that you could have just not said anything and been a man about it alright so chill out and if you have an idea wort my time reply if not don't bother ok thank you

turbohatch96y7

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Is your batt fully charged?

DAmnquickDA

Check the main relay.

93egSLEEPER

Do you hear your fuel pump prime?

turbohatch96y7

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Main relay would be no spark or fuel

He said he has both

I dont think he really knows tho.

93egSLEEPER

He said he has all the "key" components...but it won't start LOL. Obviously he is missing one component and I'm trying to make diagnosis as easy as possible. I would put money on a failing main relay as well, but if he hears the pump prime it could be something else.

Civic HX 121

I do hear the fuel pump yes

Civic HX 121

I also do know i have spark I have had a friend turn the car over with a spark plug out and put the plug on the head connected to the wire still

turbohatch96y7

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Can u smell smell fuel on the plugs?

Whats the compression across all four cylinders?

Civic HX 121

Yes i smell fuel and 150 psi all 4 cylinders

turbohatch96y7

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Take all the plugs out except number one and verify with a timing light what your timing is at on the crank pulley cranking the motor over. Either disconnect the injectors or the fuel pump so you arent spraying any more fuel in the cylinders

If you have
Spark
Compression
Air
Fuel
Timing

Something is wrong with what youre testing. That motor should start with 150 psi. I highly doubt each cylinder has the exact same compression number too.

Are the plugs flooded with fuel? Are they new?
Batt fully charged?
Strong spark?
Do you hear any back fire at all?

PyroProblem

Bad fuel? Did you recently fill up before the problems starting happening?
I've personally seen 5~6 cases of bad fuel causing misfiring and no running complaints in the Past 2 weeks alone and from talking to field engineers in my area, it has been a big problem lately.

Civic HX 121

Timing light won't help on an engine cranking. and the bad fuel thing sounds like a possible idea, should i try throwing some seafoam in the tank?

93egSLEEPER

Have you tried a known good dizzy? Checked mechanical timing (TDC w/ timing marks at crank and cams)
If it jumped a tooth it could easily be the issue. Check to make sure the tensioner didn't come loose? Injector plug didnt come loose? Try a different ecu?

I'm just throwing out everything at this point from past experiences lol

Civic HX 121

Brand new dizzy, checked timing, will check tensioner, injector plugs not loose, and will try new ecu and thank you all for your help

turbohatch96y7

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Are you sure about that, bud?

Because i do it everytime i disconnect my battery on my car to sync my timing.

Sounds like you know everything tho

Good luck

PyroProblem

Did you just refuel before these problems started?
Been a problem here lately on the east coast and I've been burnt by this before.

I don't believe Seafoam will bring back contaminated fuel. If there's water in the gas, you'll usually see separation. But gas can be bad and not have phase separation as well.
Lots of failed start attempts will also foul out the plugs so be sure to pull them and blow out/air out the cylinders every so often...

PyroProblem

And you SHOULD be able to see the timing light flash as your cranking if your ignition system is working.
Think about it. When your starting the Engine, you still need spark. You just can't set ignition timing until it's running.