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Old 12-05-2010, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by acura_b18c1
great test and info ! ... it confuses me though - its weird how an ITR manifold (designed for a 1.8L) gets beat by the pX IM on a 1.8L , but the ITR IM beats the pX on a 2.0L. I wonder how a skunk2 pro series or AEBS would do since they are similiar yet different.

It's also confusing the fact that the victorX is still a hit or miss with a 2.0L . Guess every setup is slightly different !
The stock GSR intake manifold will beat the Px and ITR on a 1.8L up to a certain point before the Px will overtake it. People have to remember what each intake was designed for. The GSR was designed for daily driven street performance in a semi heavy car so torque was important, more so than top end. The dual stage intake manifold was designed to do just that and it did it very well. The ITR was designed more around a road racing application and therefore moved towards a single plane intake manifold that emphasized mid range to top end where the car would spend more of it's time. It sacrificed some down low to accomplish this.

The S2 pro series and AEBS are so similar to the ITR intake that there there is very little difference between them when testing. There are other considerations when chosing either of those intake manifolds.

Thw Victor x really only works well on a 2L that's running a fair amount of compression and supporting modifications that is used for drag racing primarily.

Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
its a waste.. a itr manifold is almost identical to a p30 manifold.. waste of money you already have the results.
The p30 will actually kick the ITR's *** in a 1.8L up to about 7000, then the ITR will dominate.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Yea again I don't have numbers cause the guys a cheap **** but there was a very noticeable difference especially when it hit vtec when he went from a 1st gen manifold to the ported 2nd gen. He has a cheap chip that has his vtec kicking in at 4.5k and it ran pretty well with the p30, stock 1st gen b16 with itr cams I,h,e
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

A few months ago I had a customer with a similar setup using pro2 cams go from a skunk2 intake manifold to a victor x. The end result was the victor x made less power :-)
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I really wanna try a BMCRace manifold vs a full out CNCed victorX.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
I really wanna try a BMCRace manifold vs a full out CNCed victorX.
Are you going to use the fixed runner BMCRace or try different the runner lengths? This would be a really good test on 2.0ltr+ engine.
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Are you going to use the fixed runner BMCRace or try different the runner lengths? This would be a really good test on 2.0ltr+ engine.
BMC wants like 600-800 dollars for their manifolds, i can't justify that money unless i see serious gains...

The pX manifold was 380 when it first came out. This test was done on a 1.8 liter. Back then i had my ITR..and i swapped my TWM ITBS out for the pX and it was justifed.. the power gains were worth the money..

BMC's manifold looks like a modded performerX manifold...i just can't see spending 700 on a manifold unless it blew a cnc ported victorX out of the water.. and i'm not buying it, to test it, and then find out it barely does anything over what i already had. Then i'm out of money , and who wants to buy something thats not worth the money..
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

thank you
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to answer your question all motor ebay kids that dry hump name brands.
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What makes the Performer X so hard to install?
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Clearance to the firewall
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nice tuning, what did you end up having your camgears set to on your 1.8 setup?
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

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What makes the Performer X so hard to install?
Its not hard, just more modifications so it clears your fuel filter.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
BMC wants like 600-800 dollars for their manifolds, i can't justify that money unless i see serious gains...

The pX manifold was 380 when it first came out. This test was done on a 1.8 liter. Back then i had my ITR..and i swapped my TWM ITBS out for the pX and it was justifed.. the power gains were worth the money..

BMC's manifold looks like a modded performerX manifold...i just can't see spending 700 on a manifold unless it blew a cnc ported victorX out of the water.. and i'm not buying it, to test it, and then find out it barely does anything over what i already had. Then i'm out of money , and who wants to buy something thats not worth the money..
have you tried contacting BMC to see if they'll throw a donar manifold your way to do some testing? it'll be a form of free advertisement... if you think about it. heh
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Anybody ever done comparison on the skunk 2 Pro Series vs any of the above mentioned?
I got the skunk, but if Performer really adds over 10 Hp... Me likie likie!!
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

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Anybody ever done comparison on the skunk 2 Pro Series vs any of the above mentioned?
I got the skunk, but if Performer really adds over 10 Hp... Me likie likie!!
Did you read the first page of this thread? The skunk pro series is more or less a replica of the ITR manifold and performs similar.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

If anyone wants a certain manifold testing on a 2.0L.....send it to me. And i'll do it.

Or if you want it tested on a similar 1.8L that is in this thread....send me a manifold, but it has to be for a GSR head.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Are these both the same intake?
Same name (performer X) , but different info....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edelb...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-E...Q5fAccessories
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

i have a set of toyota itbs but they are for a b16 head..if not i would send to get tested...i would like to see the results vs the itr and victor x...
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by MikeySpec
If anyone wants a certain manifold testing on a 2.0L.....send it to me. And i'll do it.

Or if you want it tested on a similar 1.8L that is in this thread....send me a manifold, but it has to be for a GSR head.
i think the only test thats left is the modified px.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by 89LSED
Are these both the same intake?
Same name (performer X) , but different info....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edelb...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-E...Q5fAccessories
I would not buy eather of those until they both clear up what they have exactly, first ad says "GSR B16C" and the second ad says its a PerX but it depicts a VicX in the pic
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Originally Posted by egb18c5
i think the only test thats left is the modified px.
Morning Mikey

Nope already done. King Modded PX vs T/R




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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Awesome

How much was cut from the runners? Looks to be about 2"?
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

Oh Mike...i love you. Why dont you find the slack in your timing belt and pick up 50whp?
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LMAO i just choked.
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Default Re: Intake manifold test results on a 1.8L Edelbrock ITR IBspec Take a look! -Revised

I really do hate you lol, this really makes me want to test the performer x on my setup against my skunk2 pro manifold.


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