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Old 03-08-2016, 07:26 AM
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I have been reading the forum about different test of headers, specially the
Budget Header Showdown at: https://honda-tech.com/all-motor-nat...-test-3005484/

I was planning to get a sk2 alpha series header (there is a v2 version now) for my B16 N/A engine , I don't have much work on it except pro intake, manifold and airfilter, but seems to be that wasting 430uss for the header from sk2 is a waste of money?
(always talking about Try-Y setup, of course).


I was wondering if your guys can give me your opinion and let me know which one would be the best replica to get, and where to buy it...

Please keep in mind that i am a little worried about ground clearance, as the car will not be with stock height for much longer...
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The extra money on the v2 is pointless plus that was designed for use with a supercharger I believe or maybe it was too clear the PS pump assembly either way you don't need it.
I would say go with a RMF 4-1 replica lime this...pretty solid power and dunno proven design..the quality is good for the money imo
http://1320performancestore.com/RMF%20B%20series%20header

This one fits very clean and tight ago clearance isn't an issue unless you're a super stanced chassis dragger
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I like the Toda rep
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Second the Toda rep. I have a used one for sale, pm me if interested.
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Second the Toda rep. I have a used one for sale, pm me if interested.
I am interested, where can I see detailed pics and specially buy it? it has good ground clearance?
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The extra money on the v2 is pointless plus that was designed for use with a supercharger I believe or maybe it was too clear the PS pump assembly either way you don't need it.
I would say go with a RMF 4-1 replica lime this...pretty solid power and dunno proven design..the quality is good for the money imo
RMF Style header w/ test pipe

This one fits very clean and tight ago clearance isn't an issue unless you're a super stanced chassis dragger
But that is a 4-1 setup, i was looking for a Tri-Y design as for what i have been reading its what fit best for balanced performance at mid range.
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The toda fit very well and will perform great
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Lets go for it then, were i can find model number or store to buy it? ( I only found the original one which sits at 1500usd )
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https://www.privatelabelmfg.com/prod...-ta-header.htm buy direct or on ebay.
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Originally Posted by creizlein
But that is a 4-1 setup, i was looking for a Tri-Y design as for what i have been reading its what fit best for balanced performance at mid range.
In theory it makes sense but on a B16 the torque you would gain with a Tri Y would be very minimal compared to the top end peak power the 4-1 style Toda or RMF would achieve over that. It's your money so spend it on what you like but the power band of a B16 doesn't really support the balanced power idea...
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Thank you very much for the links and tip, just wondering tho, and dont want to open another thread, what would be the main reasons for not saving 200bucks and getting a cheap 60bucks one? will it REALLY make worth the difference in a NA car?

Amazon.com: Honda Civic/CRX/Del Sol Performance 4-2-1 Design Stainless Steel Exhaust Header Kit EC ED EE EF: Automotive Amazon.com: Honda Civic/CRX/Del Sol Performance 4-2-1 Design Stainless Steel Exhaust Header Kit EC ED EE EF: Automotive

it comes even in silver ceramic coat.... ( please dont kill me, just trying to understand a bit more on why spend extra 200usd on the header )
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The skunk2 V2 has really good ground clearance. If you have an EF with a b16, that's really gonna be an issue.
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I would not put much confidence in the header from amazon fitting great or lasting too long. They usually break at the welds or flanges. The PLM will fit perfect and wont fall apart. Don;t spend money twice on a cheap unit.
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We answered your question and you bring up that header from Amazon? I want my 2 minutes back. Keep it stock
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Originally Posted by 43!
We answered your question and you bring up that header from Amazon? I want my 2 minutes back. Keep it stock
haha, I did mention not to kill me and was looking just for opinions on what are the main differences, besides the obvious quality one, not that im going to but it.

But we are talking about saving 100usd for the sk2 due unnecessary cost, maybe the PLM 300uss compared to a cheap 50uss wasn't worth, just asking

Anyway, thanks for the time as usual and accept my 2 mins
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https://honda-tech.com/all-motor-nat...erest-3272076/

Toda Replica on a B16. No comparisons here, but, it shows what it's capable of.

I have yet to dent it, scrape it, or rub it in reference to ground clearance.
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Originally Posted by h23bb2
https://honda-tech.com/all-motor-nat...erest-3272076/

Toda Replica on a B16. No comparisons here, but, it shows what it's capable of.

I have yet to dent it, scrape it, or rub it in reference to ground clearance.
Very nice work, it looks amazing in black as well, keep it up
cant wait to have mine now, but it will take a few more weeks to get it on my country.
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Bumping this thread up, i have everything ready (money wise) to get the PLM Today Rep, as most of you recommended and I read is the most well spent money

now, which one is the exact product?
https://www.privatelabelmfg.com/Hond...aders_s/45.htm

I know original Toda headers have a V1 and V2 version, which one does PLM replicate? or which one should i get? anyone can confirm it with SKU number or something?

Regards,

PS: Remember we want t Try-Y Toda Replica V2
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The Toda replica is the top one on the list of the link you posted. The "TA." Yes there is a V1 and 2, the only difference being between the two is the 2nd version is a one piece with reinforcement tabs by the flange. So I guess the PLM is a mix of both of them being one piece but no reinforcement tabs. I believe the replica is stepped also like the genuine one is.

V2: https://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/view...idcategory=281



Mine is the first version
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Originally Posted by clean rice
The Toda replica is the top one on the list of the link you posted. The "TA." Yes there is a V1 and 2, the only difference being between the two is the 2nd version is a one piece with reinforcement tabs by the flange. So I guess the PLM is a mix of both of them being one piece but no reinforcement tabs.
Thank you very much clean rice, i will go ahead and get the first one on their site then, will see if there is any other store with a cheaper price, their store is a bit overpriced but I'm afraid to get fakes as well..
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Would anyone be so kind to share some picture of a installed.fitted Toda Replica on a Civic Sedan B16, specially with ground clearance and oilpan clearance?
i am concerned about ground clearance and if some blend is neede, and wasnt able to found much for this reference...
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The toda rep header has the best clearance on the market in my opinion
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