dkeb1993

I'm planing on boosting my my 91 ls it has 218 k on the motor my plan is to buy a ebay Turbo kit for less than 600 bucks use a missing link and boost dependent fmu and run about 6 to 8 psi and retard my timing to 12 my goal is 240 to 260 up with stock injectors then upgrade engine Turbo and injectors later on did a leak test fixed a couple small oil leaks and put new water pump timing belt and thermostat in it compression checks out at 188-190 across the board at 6 cranks so what you guys think of my plan and are my goals possible with this set up

boostedteg909

i would personally wait nd get all the proper parts first. reliable turbo, better manifold than wat comes in the ebay kits, proper injectors. that way u ditch the missing link nd fmu. fmu's tend to smoke motors

dkeb1993

OK well I if i wanted better engine management I would have to convert to obd1 and the lacal tuner is about 80 miles away in Portland and they ship the ecu's to California for chiping I would be out of a car for a while but do think it has to many miles to even try to boost or should I go na and not worry about boost my goal is to have a fun street car with some fun usable power

boostedteg909

either way, the motor should b rebuild. lsv's dnt like stock ls internals because of how high theyre goin to rev. the weakest link in my opinion is the rod bolts. if u boost, at low psi nd horsepower, u can get away wit using stock rods. but at least do pistons, bearings nd arp rod bolts. at the very least. goin lsvtec is a lot more than wat ppl think. to build one that is decently reliable isnt jus slappin the head on, givin it oil nd goin. either way u look at it, boost or n/a, ur lookinat bein without a car while its bein built if u do it properly. nd it isnt worth doin if its half-assed

dkeb1993

I was probably not going to do lsv and the fmu would be temporarily in tell I get a a chipped ecu and I was planning on doing rings and head gasket i was worried about doing a budget set up but I read a story of the editor of Honda tuning did with even s worse set and he made 400 hp without blowing it up those would be a lot less than that so would it be safe enpugh or would it blow up I'm a week cause that's what im worried about I had a lude with over 300k on it and the set up lasted over a year then it indeed blow up so I just don't want to be buying a new motor a week after boosting it

boostedteg909

exactly. jus cuz it lasts on the dyno long enough to get numbers doesnt mean its gonna last down the road. do it right nd the proper way the FIRST time. all im sayin man. not bashin on u or nutin. i went down the fmu road already. i rebuilt my car not a week after i got it cuz the guy b4 me didnt do it right. get ur ecu chipped nd get injectors b4 u boost it. that way its done nd outta the way nd u can build nd upgrade round that if u wanna make more power down the line

CO_RaceFab

Stock injectors won't make 250

cleansi

218k, ebay, missing link, fmu, 600 bucks
boot.

dantamparacer

fast, cheap, reliable pick 2 and its not the other. IMO

dkeb1993

Thanks that's sound advice I got a full parts list now and I will start ordering parts tomorrow I'm doing the rebuild before boost and getting new exauhst first to and bigger injectors thanks for the info I will keep up to date on the build i do have a random question though how come mags like Honda tuning and the Honda issues of super street don't feature boosted Honda's just na ones?

cleansi

why are ***** good?

CDecker0218

one of my friends from CCC Racing is running a stock LS with a ebay turbo set up runningg 11's. It can be done.

CO_RaceFab

What are you talking about the two fastest street cars in the world are in this months issue along with another 8sec hatch...

civickiller

stop spreading wrong information if you dont have a lsv. i did my head swap in 2 hours

my lsv set up
96 ls botton end, smoked na from the beginning when i swapped it in
95 gsr head b16 cam, itr im

my ls motor swapped '02, before i bought it, went through racing and nitrous and i raced it every weekend

lsv in '06, same stock bottom end nothing done to it except head studs. racing every weekend. dynoed na 8500rpm limiter. middle of '10 turboed and dynoed 266whp@8 psi 8700rpm limiter continued with racing every weekend. bottom end guaranteed has over 10000 passes. people use pre 96 without vtec oil pump so above 7k was oil starvation so of course spin bearing not rod bolt stretch, maybe the heat generated cause bolts to stretch, maybe pre 96 have weaker rods bolts, maybe part # for pre 96 and post 96 rod bolts

boostedteg909

u might wanna get ur information straight big dog before u open ur mouth. i hav a lsv turbo. 94 b18b bottom, h beam rods, forged wiseco pistons, jdm b16a head, jdm gsr cams, tuned at 10psi nice try on accusin me of not havin one tho

dkeb1993

Well I was thinking if I'm going to be replacing rings I might as well replace my pistons to so what kind do you think I should buy like brand or type I mean I know ctr p30 pistons will fit night that would give me crazy high comp if I'm going to boost or maybe I will do a lsv then boost later my local Honda guy really thinks I should do lsv and put the Turbo idea behind me atleast for now

civickiller

see boosted you listed all these thing you "have to do", my point was my setup has nothing on your list. everything on my lsvt is "stock" except for b16 cams and modified itr im. but i will admit that im only running 266@8psi but revving it to 8700, still was making power but before i knew the difference between b16 and gsr valve springs

boostedteg909

nutin i said u HAV TO DO. u nvr hav to do anythin but some things r a goid idea. ive seen a few motor where the rod bolts let go. my tuner said the same thing. i was jus givin a list of stuff so if ur gonna do it might as well make it reliable. not sayin u cnt get away wit using stock bottom but ive seen too many let go without boost.

CO_RaceFab

Stock ls rods will hold 400-450hp... been there done that multiple times on multiple cars

civickiller

very true boosted, i dont remember if your list said vtec oil pump, but i think thats a necessity amongst those other things u said to make it more reliable

CRX_1.8T

The OP would be better off just saving up money for a while, doing more research in the turbo forum, and not using a stock injector/ghetto setup.

dkeb1993

I was going to get dsm injectors and I'm not doing ls vtec annd im ordering a chipped ecu soon and I have seen ebay Turbo s work and last but what pistons do you guys think I should get for my Turbo build

boostedteg909

u can get away wit boostin on stock rods. find a set of piston that work wit semi-floatin wrist pin. i would recommend a forged piston. im personally runnin wiseco pistons but i think the wrist pin diameter is different. ive heard nd seen good things wit supertech. a 9:1 comp ratio is good wit boost but still gives decent driveability. dependin on ur power goals dsm injectors work great. im runnin dsm 560s out of an evo9. if ur shootin for round 250whp or a tad more u can get away wit 450s. im runnin an ebay turbo as well. i would highly recommend gettin it balanced if u decide to get one. orderin a chipped ecu is cool but id still recommend gettin it tuned right after the build. a basemap can get u close but at least street tune it to get ur a/f ratios spot on

dkeb1993

OK sounds good I will look in to that you think a base map will Get 80 miles to my tuner at horse power freaks ink in Portland?

boostedteg909

a basemap is almost a shot in the dark. if it idles good nd has decent driveability round the neighborhood then u should b fine. jus dnt push it. i kno itll b hard but no boostin on the freeway