pics of my new triple disc
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks great and all, but having a clutch that can handle 3 times the amount of torque you are making is a good way to break trannies! A little slip on the clutch is when keeps the trans together....</TD></TR></TABLE><3
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (SwappedTURBOegg)
Keep in mind that clutch torque capacity is rated at the flywheel. If you consider a 15% drivetrain loss, a standard twin that holds 800 lb-ft is only holding about 680. If you have car that is making 500 lb-ft, that would make that clutch perfect until you strap on some big slicks and do a third gear burnout at 11,000 rpm. It will hold fine until you come out of the box and the car hooks. All of that load goes directly to the clutch, causing it to spike the number of torque in which it needs to hold. You may need as much as 900 lb-ft capacity when this happens. Also, when this happens, it builds a tremendous amount of heat. The triple holds 1200 lb-ft at the flywheel, which is 1020 to the wheels. One of the biggest advantages of using the triple is that it has an extra disc and floater to help with heat dissipation.
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (turbotypeR@SPEC)
I run a 5.5" carbon twin that is rated at 750ft/lbs and i make over 500ft/lbs to the tire, never had a slipping problem that wasn't a result of a worn out clutch.
I promise you, if there is a big torque spike like that on a honda at any point, you're going to want the clutch to slip rather than put all that torque through the trans.
I promise you, if there is a big torque spike like that on a honda at any point, you're going to want the clutch to slip rather than put all that torque through the trans.
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I run a 5.5" carbon twin that is rated at 750ft/lbs and i make over 500ft/lbs to the tire, never had a slipping problem that wasn't a result of a worn out clutch.
I promise you, if there is a big torque spike like that on a honda at any point, you're going to want the clutch to slip rather than put all that torque through the trans. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand your concern about saving the tranny, but you really can't keep slipping a metallic clutch like you can a carbon one. It will just wear it out. A carbon clutch will hold more power with heat, a metallic one will not. If you keep slipping it, it will be no good. The biggest plus to this clutch is it's ability to dissipate heat. The extra capacity is just a plus.
I promise you, if there is a big torque spike like that on a honda at any point, you're going to want the clutch to slip rather than put all that torque through the trans. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand your concern about saving the tranny, but you really can't keep slipping a metallic clutch like you can a carbon one. It will just wear it out. A carbon clutch will hold more power with heat, a metallic one will not. If you keep slipping it, it will be no good. The biggest plus to this clutch is it's ability to dissipate heat. The extra capacity is just a plus.
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (turbotypeR@SPEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I understand your concern about saving the tranny, but you really can't keep slipping a metallic clutch like you can a carbon one. It will just wear it out. A carbon clutch will hold more power with heat, a metallic one will not. If you keep slipping it, it will be no good. The biggest plus to this clutch is it's ability to dissipate heat. The extra capacity is just a plus.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why does your clutch look to be a metallic one
I understand your concern about saving the tranny, but you really can't keep slipping a metallic clutch like you can a carbon one. It will just wear it out. A carbon clutch will hold more power with heat, a metallic one will not. If you keep slipping it, it will be no good. The biggest plus to this clutch is it's ability to dissipate heat. The extra capacity is just a plus.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why does your clutch look to be a metallic one
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (turbotypeR@SPEC)
You need to go talk with any of the transmission/ gear suppliers before you say that added clutch capacity is a plus when your engine is making over 500ft.lbs. There are reasons behind the madness...
Also, are you sure that you are driving into a dead hook during a burnout? Without lifting off the throttle?
Also, are you sure that you are driving into a dead hook during a burnout? Without lifting off the throttle?
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (AutotechRD)
I don't think its legal for nhra. I remember reading no more than twin disk. And metalic clutches are just to harsh. If you make enough power to want one of those you better have a carbon. Cool looking piece though
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (turbotypeR@SPEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here are some pics of my new triple disc. I have it in but haven't tried it out yet.
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your pressure plate has (a) bluetooth!
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your pressure plate has (a) bluetooth!
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (tony413)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why does your clutch look to be a metallic one </TD></TR></TABLE>
The material is carbon semi-metallic-not carbon fiber
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutotechRD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need to go talk with any of the transmission/ gear suppliers before you say that added clutch capacity is a plus when your engine is making over 500ft.lbs. There are reasons behind the madness...
Also, are you sure that you are driving into a dead hook during a burnout? Without lifting off the throttle?</TD></TR></TABLE>
A third gear burnout puts a huge load on the clutch. If you have ever done a burnout in a fwd, you already know that the car will spin and then start to grab. When it trys to grab, it puts the load to the clutch. The higher the gear, the more load.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HR-1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think its legal for nhra. I remember reading no more than twin disk. And metalic clutches are just to harsh. If you make enough power to want one of those you better have a carbon. Cool looking piece though </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't find anything like that in the rulebook. It just says that it has to be sfi approved
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your twin from your car is still good you should hook a brother up....lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm gonna hold on to it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowReaction »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are those honda splines on the discs? Look pretty big</TD></TR></TABLE>
The discs in the pic have supra hubs. I took the pics before the hubs were done.
why does your clutch look to be a metallic one </TD></TR></TABLE>
The material is carbon semi-metallic-not carbon fiber
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutotechRD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need to go talk with any of the transmission/ gear suppliers before you say that added clutch capacity is a plus when your engine is making over 500ft.lbs. There are reasons behind the madness...
Also, are you sure that you are driving into a dead hook during a burnout? Without lifting off the throttle?</TD></TR></TABLE>
A third gear burnout puts a huge load on the clutch. If you have ever done a burnout in a fwd, you already know that the car will spin and then start to grab. When it trys to grab, it puts the load to the clutch. The higher the gear, the more load.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HR-1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think its legal for nhra. I remember reading no more than twin disk. And metalic clutches are just to harsh. If you make enough power to want one of those you better have a carbon. Cool looking piece though </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't find anything like that in the rulebook. It just says that it has to be sfi approved
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your twin from your car is still good you should hook a brother up....lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm gonna hold on to it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowReaction »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are those honda splines on the discs? Look pretty big</TD></TR></TABLE>
The discs in the pic have supra hubs. I took the pics before the hubs were done.
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (Turbocivic94)
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (agrn93ls)
I always thought the reason they never made triples for Honda's was because of the actual thickness of the clutch and it not fitting in our housings with the stock shaft. How did they make this work, thin out all the parts? You should post some comparison pics of it next to another model car's triple.
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Re: pics of my new triple disc (AutotechRD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutotechRD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you guys change the clamp load on the pressure plates? Do you do it by changing the fulcrum rings? </TD></TR></TABLE>
There are 4 different diaphrams that offer 4 different clamp loads.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so by thining the rings, ur loosing areas for heat dissapation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you are increasing heat dissipation because there is more surface area.
There are 4 different diaphrams that offer 4 different clamp loads.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so by thining the rings, ur loosing areas for heat dissapation?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you are increasing heat dissipation because there is more surface area.
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