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Old 12-05-2006, 07:30 PM
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wow hes a little guy, im glad i got my money back. sorry to everyone that got screwed. it took me a year and half to get money back
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i still say we kill him and get it over with... just my
Old 12-05-2006, 09:13 PM
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Well now that we know what district is handling the case...just start calling the local police department and filing reports of theft!
Old 12-05-2006, 09:14 PM
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i wanna fly to tx just for the case. and walk in with a "expletive one-fab" shirt on
Old 12-05-2006, 10:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you pay the $50 grand, you get the money back if you are found innocent.
If you pay a bondsman, the bondsman keeps your $5000 regardless of whether you are innocent or guilty.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you show up in court, you get the money back, usually minus some administrative fees. If you don't go to court, they keep the money.
Old 12-06-2006, 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you show up in court, you get the money back, usually minus some administrative fees. If you don't go to court, they keep the money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We can argue this, but I am right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_bondsman
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you show up in court, you get the money back, usually minus some administrative fees. If you don't go to court, they keep the money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you are talking about if you put up the bond (in matts case, $50000). If he is found innocent, he gets it back. You will never get the 10% back from a bondsman.
Old 12-06-2006, 06:07 AM
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Right, the bondsman keeps his 10%, at least he's kept it when I've given it to him. I've also never had to put up collateral, but most of my bond amounts have only been a few thousand dollars.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rmcdaniels &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right, the bondsman keeps his 10%, at least he's kept it when I've given it to him. I've also never had to put up collateral, but most of my bond amounts have only been a few thousand dollars. </TD></TR></TABLE>So even crazy supercharger guys go to jail. LOL
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I used to go pretty frequently, mostly for fighting, being excessively drunk, failure to disperse, failure to comply with a police officer, etc. I'm old now, and I spent seven years as a cop and prison guard, so I hardly ever get in trouble any more.
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LOL, learn somthing new every day.
Old 12-06-2006, 06:20 AM
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Yeah, it's funny, I used to think all cops were complete ********. Then I spent a few years doing that job and I understand why they act that way. Now I get along really well with them.
Old 12-06-2006, 06:25 AM
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drugs are no excuse, i met him before he was on drugs and he was already making stupid decisions. it strikes me as a little odd that he would all of a sudden start doing something like meth... seems somewhat out of character having personally delt with him.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We can argue this, but I am right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_bondsman
The end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not referring to the money that you give to the bondsman.
Old 12-06-2006, 07:10 AM
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My brother the attorney says that if everyone really wants this guy to stay in jail that everyone that has been fucked over needs to file a report for fruad. Then call the DA and let them know that there are a whole bunch of offenses filed against him.

It is actually a lot easier to get out of the charges he has then one would think. However if people actually filed $30k worth of fraud against him the DA would go to the Judge and say on top of being a woman beater he has pending charges for committing fruad. Do not let him go. The Judge will agree.

Then Matt gets to go to jail and await the charges of fraud. Since those charges are across state lines and Federal matters, and of course with Stan's cooperation he would be found guilty he will then go to Federal pound me in the *** prison. THAT IS WHERE YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE.


I say if you guys want your money's worth send him there. You won't get your money back but I am sure in the back of your mind at this point it is more worth it knowing he will be called Mary for the next few years of his life.
Old 12-06-2006, 07:24 AM
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Here's the main issue with matt's case.

About 95% of people that he had scammed get their money back by chargeback. When he's not able to shows proof of delivery, you win the chargeback.

The people that lose out the most money is the people that helped him out. Myself for example, Jason (Stoopid), Boostfed and a few here and there.

Unless you ordered from him by money order, you'll prolly scammed as well and not gettting your money back.

All the customers that was charged through me either gets a refund or parts that they ordered. I had to fullfill the customer's order with full race mani, precision turbo and etc.

This is where I lost my 15K, I spent money out of my own pocket to come up with teh refund and the money to buy the parts to fullfill the cusotmer's order

Jason lost about $ 4500 since Matt uses his paypal account to accept payment, get the money and never deliver the goods. The customer file a chargeback through paypal and get their money back, but Jason's paypal account was overdrawn and he had to spend money to bring it back to zero.

This being said, there's only a few people that were directly affected. The DA will not bother with the case on federal level, unless I can come up with a list 50-100 people that was scammed directly with some significant amount.

$ 30K is not too significant unfortunately on federal level...it's a lot for us (I almost lost my business) because of it. They're dealing with hundreds of thousands and millions dolalrs case daily...

That's the sad part..

stan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
We can argue this, but I am right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_bondsman
The end.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha wikipedia FTW
Old 12-06-2006, 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's the main issue with matt's case.

About 95% of people that he had scammed get their money back by chargeback. When he's not able to shows proof of delivery, you win the chargeback.

The people that lose out the most money is the people that helped him out. Myself for example, Jason (Stoopid), Boostfed and a few here and there.

Unless you ordered from him by money order, you'll prolly scammed as well and not gettting your money back.

All the customers that was charged through me either gets a refund or parts that they ordered. I had to fullfill the customer's order with full race mani, precision turbo and etc.

This is where I lost my 15K, I spent money out of my own pocket to come up with teh refund and the money to buy the parts to fullfill the cusotmer's order

Jason lost about $ 4500 since Matt uses his paypal account to accept payment, get the money and never deliver the goods. The customer file a chargeback through paypal and get their money back, but Jason's paypal account was overdrawn and he had to spend money to bring it back to zero.

This being said, there's only a few people that were directly affected. The DA will not bother with the case on federal level, unless I can come up with a list 50-100 people that was scammed directly with some significant amount.

$ 30K is not too significant unfortunately on federal level...it's a lot for us (I almost lost my business) because of it. They're dealing with hundreds of thousands and millions dolalrs case daily...

That's the sad part..

stan</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stan,

Contacting the DA and at least telling them the bad he has done will do a lot. The odds he will plea. If they know he was a scambag before this, they will fight for more time. Make him pay for everything bad he has done.

Even if they do not give him more time, you at least tried.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stan,

Contacting the DA and at least telling them the bad he has done will do a lot. The odds he will plea. If they know he was a scambag before this, they will fight for more time. Make him pay for everything bad he has done.

Even if they do not give him more time, you at least tried.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My bro agreed with Stan on the fact that they likely will not hear the case, however Turbogixxer is right, contacting the DA and telling him what is going on will do some good. If nothing else tell him your story and give him a link to one of the threads about Matt scamming people. The DA has no sympathy for people like this. It would not be held as evidence but make it a hell of a lot harder to get a plea.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is where I lost my 15K, I spent money out of my own pocket to come up with teh refund and the money to buy the parts to fullfill the cusotmer's order


$ 30K is not too significant unfortunately on federal level...it's a lot for us (I almost lost my business) because of it. They're dealing with hundreds of thousands and millions dolalrs case daily...

That's the sad part..

stan</TD></TR></TABLE>

It really sucks, for a small business to loose 30k well.. it sucks but it happens. It happened to my father a few months ago, he was sub'd though a company to do some work, we did the jobs, they went under. We get screwed, along with the suppliers and such that they owed money too.

Just for you and others who tried to help him out really sucks since all you got was a slap in the mouth. Too bad he got hooked on meth.. here is some info on it.

Methamphetamine (sometimes referred to as methylamphetamine or desoxyephedrine) is a psychostimulant drug used primarily for recreational purposes, but is sometimes prescribed for ADHD and narcolepsy under the brand name Desoxyn. It causes euphoria and excitement by acting directly on the brain's reward mechanisms, thus making it highly addictive. Methamphetamine rapidly enters the brain and causes a cascading release of norepinephrine and dopamine (and to a lesser extent, serotonin). Users may become obsessed or perform repetitive tasks such as cleaning, hand-washing or assembling and disassembling objects.[2] Withdrawal is characterized by increased sleeping and eating, and depression-like symptoms, often accompanied by anxiety and drug-craving

Also, locally it has become a problem is some lesser area's of town, people often get scabs all over their faces, because they think they have bugs on their face and just keep washing and trying to rid the bugs.

Here are some pictures.. 17months before and after.



Heres more long term.. 3years 5months.



Sad really, the thing about meth is that its fairly inexpensive, especially to make. $50 in products to make the stuff can yeild $5000 worth of the drug. I doubt this is the sole place all of your thousands went that you were all scammed, im sure it went to other places as well, but the drug is probably the reason why he didnt make your product and follow though with the order.

The only thing i dont understand.. Why if so many have been ripped off, how come so many kept buying from him with knowledge of what he had done to others, im talking about the small customers here who just bought a manifold or downpipe, not the friends who tried to help which is understandable to some extent.

To his sorry ***.
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I dont think 95% is an accurate number of people who were able to get their money back. There's ALOT of people in those other "One-Fab scam threads" that were completely screwed and never got any money back.

However it sounds like Stan was scammed out of the most money. I think your in the best position to get the ball rolling on any legal action. If others could jump aboard I think you have a stronger case. I just hate to see nobody take any legal action against him for this. Its the principal.

Lets get the name of the DA and the number to his office posted. I think if that information was made available we could get alot of people onboard. Even if the total amount if less than millions, having 30,40,50 people call about Matt would certainly raise some eyebrows.
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get DOGG after his ***..

What a piece of **** person...
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He's 5'8 135lbs? The poor guy has anorexia too.
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Some girl got beat up by him? What happened?


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