gsrdelslo

Hello,
My name is Ron.
Just wondering if anyone had an opinion about(if money was not and object) where would you send your blown motor to get built properly in complete form to recieve a 15 psi high/6 low turbo. I have spent near or if not over 20,000 on laber and parts only to have 4th motor blown. I looking for a machine shop or builder with a bullet prof rep and can back up work with warrenty. If warrenty is not realistic then a bullet proff rep will due. If I connot find such a company then I am going ahead with an Acura 3.2 CL TypeS swap to make rear engine, rear drive delslo.
Ron with blue delsol.

boostedcivicsir

if you have gone through 4 motors, what was going wrong? if it is in your engine management, even a bulletproof engine will die due to a bad tune.

hotimportcrx

Damn! Four blown motors...........how did they blow?

Turbo_y8

If doesnt matter who built it. you have gone through 4 motor, No motor cant stand beating forever

Vero

doesnt sound like the motors are the case, it's either your tuning, or your driving.

turbotime

wow did nobodoy read his question?

to get an engine built properly if money is not an object:

Built assembled by Earl Laskey (www.laskeyracing.com)

Sleeved By: Dan Benson (also part of laskey racing(or somehow associated))

*note most builders dont warranty engine work cause in the end you can always ruin an engine with improper tuning and that would be in no way/shape/form the engine builders fault. But of course newbie racers dont know that so they try and go after the builder- thus most builders offer no warranty at all


Modified by turbotime at 3:18 AM 1/30/2006

LyghtFunky1

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riceburnerryan

yeah ... get it running and get it tuned...

AutoXer

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rear engine, rear drive delslo.
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Yeah, good luck with that. But seriously, who's built your motors previously that you blew so many, and blew $20K on them?

x_outlaw_x

i b16 stock engine can handle 26 psi before it blows...ask HCI, they tested it, 502hp at 26 psi, blew on 27 psi

turbotime

see also: Jeff Evans

Del Sol SiR

iTrader: (2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsrdelslo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello,
My name is Ron.
Just wondering if anyone had an opinion about(if money was not and object) where would you send your blown motor to get built properly in complete form to recieve a 15 psi high/6 low turbo. I have spent near or if not over 20,000 on laber and parts only to have 4th motor blown. I looking for a machine shop or builder with a bullet prof rep and can back up work with warrenty. If warrenty is not realistic then a bullet proff rep will due. If I connot find such a company then I am going ahead with an Acura 3.2 CL TypeS swap to make rear engine, rear drive delslo.
Ron with blue delsol.
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if money was no object, i'd take my honda motor to where the honda formula cars get their work from.

but if you're blowin motors, i would narrow down the reasons for them blowing and come up with a reasonable solution vs. posting on here asking about wishes and such, because if money was no object wtf own a Honda Del Sol?

GarageAlchemist

smells like troll

salesmonkey

i pooped in your sol and then returned it

Luserkid

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Built assembled by Earl Laskey (www.laskeyracing.com)

Sleeved By: Chris Benson (aslo part of laskey racing(or somehow associated))

*note most builders dont warranty engine work cause in the end you can always ruin an engine with improper tuning and that would be in no way/shape/form the engine builders fault. But of course newbie racers dont know that so they try and go after the builder- thus most builders offer no warranty at all</TD></TR></TABLE>

Best combo ever! Seriously though if you put that much money into a motor and you blew it at 15psi you really should not be working on cars.

816d16

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Says the trial member

eL

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Yeah, good luck with that. But seriously, who's built your motors previously that you blew so many, and blew $20K on them?

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It's been done.

gsrdelslo

Welll,
The responses have been overwhelming. The best thing I could do is try to address all questions as they come but First you have to know the Mods. THere are two common denominators, Me and The shop I have been Going To.
But The mods are as follows
b18c block with benson sleeves bored out to almost 2.0 liters
b16a3head port matched=intake exhaust.
Skunk2valve springs,retainers,stage 2 cams,cam gears and INtakemanifold.
Je Forged pistons(11.5-1)Eagle rods.
Arp head bolts,Cometic Metal head gasket.
Hondata S200 and Intake manifold gasket
Accel 310 injectors
DC sports header,Random tech cat, Greddy evo1 cat back.
Msd digital6, blastercoil 3,distrubitorcap,Viteck plug wires
Unorthordox racing fully pully kit
Aem coldair,fuel rail,fpr. and Holy intank fuel pump.
Meiser electric water pump,Moroso baffled steel 5 quart oil pan and PWR gsr radiator with Twin FAL FAns.
Fuel filter replaced new before last 2 builds. No air conditioning completely gutted out. I was Tuned at a certified hondata technician with a mustang dyno.
I have blown the original motor in the car(d16vtec). Built a replacement motor with crap load of bolt ons and bolt ins. Added ZEX nitrous and blew motor(week point was plugs). Upgraded to b16 with few bolt ons. AFter getting bored I added the zex dry system I bought earlier, blew that motor(finally done with nitrous). Then decided to go B20vtec mostly built minus sleeve and cooling mods. Vtec syliniod took a crap and sprayed all oil out of engine in mater of minutes on the way to work. Final build w/b18 and cylender 1 crashed against valve and shattered piston and sent debress throughout entire engine through the Intake manifold.
ROn with blue delsol

gsrdelslo

Due to loyalty or stupidity, I cannot say the builder is to blame. But I am hard on motors, or cars, When occasion occurs I will race to spank competition, or to prove that the other car is not as "bad as the owner thinks it is". So in that respect I take blame for unecessary ware and tare. But my last build was dynoed on a Mustang Dyno with a conservitive start. HIgh fuel to air ratio. Kept fuel ratio high and HP numbers down until warm up in spring. Ran at stoic numbers for first 850 miles, dynoed at 170 hp, then ran on street for 1500miles, when it blew. I was at 7000 rpm in 3 rd gear when it blew. Never reved it past 8000 since new build. And during break in period, I keep it below 5000 rpm./
Still not sure what caused the blow this time.
Ron with blue delsol

gsrdelslo

THank you for giving me some info I can use. I will reserch this and see what I can do with this info. THanks again and have a great day. I will get back to you to let you know what become of this link you have given me.
Later,
Ron with blue delsol

gsrdelslo

I try not to point fingers. I have been working with shop and owner for over four years. I have done my best to have a working relationship. Giving a name for the place would not be to my best interest. But on my own thinking, I am looking for other options that best meet my specific needs and my destrutive driving habbits and road course racing.
Ron with blue delsol

marcusgnf

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ROn with blue delsol

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one of the biggest issues when building a motor is CLEARANCES sounds like this wasnt a priority in this build - unless your timing belt broke or sumthing?

gsrdelslo

I am glad you asked.
Number 1 I posted because I am part of group and looking for a salution to a problem.(I believe that is why honda-tech is availible to use)
#2 I happen to like my delsol.
#3 Rear Engine, Rear drive is rare and benificial to performance on Road course racing.
#4 To build a blown motor to the specs I have stated on the post, It may require either 2000 dollars or may require 8000, There is limit to a rebuild. There may be shop with a hairy rep that states that they can do it for 500. The Statement " Money does not matter is relative to what a reasonable person is willing to spend to get to there goals. The past 4 years I have dumped more than 20,000 onto this car. I still love this car and will probably spend 20000 more. But when I am finished, then this 40,000 dollar car will whip a 80,000 dollar sports car.
Ron with blue delsol

gsrdelslo

The motor is not turbo, Just looking to put one in sense I have destroyed my pistons with last blow. but because my built d16, b16, b20 and b18 blew(all motor except nitrous on d16,and b16) I looking to build blown motor to a low compression turbo setup. I pay a shop to do 100% work. none by me. To much money for me to mess with.
Ron with blue delsol

gsrdelslo

I hope you can understand that It would not be a good time at this moment to
bad name a shop. But it would be great to find alternanatives as far as shipping my motor to a good shop to get a better build for internals and head work. I have to try to keep focus on getting the most reliable with rep. If im lucky, to geT more hp along with all that.
Ron with blue delsol