Spawne32

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its only been in the car 3 weeks after we installed the JRSC, and the sensor failed already, what a piece of crap. Is this common for the innovate units? Im contemplating returning the whole thing, its just ashame its gona be a megabitch to take it all out.

david974

wich innovate is it?
i used to have a LC1 and it died after his first tuning session
my LM1 went 2 time in RMA but it still good since 4 years
for sensor failling you should check it location in your exhaust system to hot and they go fast

mrbigg9032

Pretty much all widebands use the same sensor, blame bosch not innovate.

Spawne32

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its in the factory o2 location right before the cat, your right i probably shouldnt blame innovate, that bosch sensor seems to be crap, anyway to switch sensors to something else, or is that unit calibrated only for the bosch

rs250nut

X2
If the sensor is not powered up all the time it will mess it up. Also try to keep the sensor cable away from the ignition system, the readings will be all over the place otherwise.

inspector01

I have had good luck with my LM-1, but my LC-1 has been nothing but hassle. I gave up on it after a bit of messing and just use the LM-1.

But i have never had a bosch sensor fail on me in the last 5 years, but I usually change them every 10k miles or so.

twkdCD595

The sensor placement (too close to the turbo per say or at a low angle) and the controller can definately affect sensor life. It might not just be the sensor is crap.

Let me say first off an NGK sensor is definately superior from everything I have seen as far as quality and life of the sensor over the Bosch, maybe consider upgrading if the unit can be recalibrated for it. However just reference though I have a Bosch in my car with my NGK AFX setup for going on 3 years now... on nothing but leaded 112 fuel. So the Bosch has held up pretty decently in my application.

BlackT5

Running an LC-1 for the past 3 years with no issues. I have heard of people having problems with them, maybe i'm one of the lucky ones?

2k.civic.si

Been using my LM-1 for 5+ years and the unit works flawless. The sensors on the other hand have lasted anywhere from 3-4months of dyno tuning to 3-4 pulls lol...damn bosch sensors

92TypeR

Been using an FJO CWC0002 WBO2 kit since 2001. Still on the same NTK/NGK L2H2 sensor.

Spawne32

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does anyone know if they overheat, or the elements are just that fragile that they crap out

welfarepc

the bosch sensor is great. the innovate lc1 is great as well.


chances are you need to update your firmwire on the LC1. the first version of them sold back in 2008ish had a glitch in the warm up routine causing premature sensor failure.



my first o2 sensor lasted 2 years daily driving on my LC1. that includes some leaded fuel a few times.

Spawne32

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i updated the firmware 2 days ago from 1.10a to 1.10 via the website, theres not much else I can do if the sensor failed.

2k.civic.si

The sensor failing is not innovates fault. If you want a sensor that is built to last caugh up the cash and get a NTK sensor.

TOPHERS-RACING-LOGISTICS

I have a LM1 and its a peice of crap. It takes forever to warm up and goes through the warm up procedure everytime I start the car. I thought it was a voltage problem but even when I connect it straight to a auxilary battery its still a pain in my A$$. Time to get either a FAST wideband or possibly a motec.

Spawne32

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um, i use the sensor to simulate the factory narrowband, i would assume by the fact that it has this option that its designed to last a little longer then 3 weeks

b16racereg6

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i like my Lc-1 wideband it was cheap to thank god. Lol i have not had it to long but i think 3wks is pretty fast for craping out. maybe get a new sensor and try it out again. You could have just got a shity one. look around replace ments seem to be 50-70bux each g.l update when u replace and if it ***** out again fast!!!

Pay2play killa

I have an LM1 with a ton of miles on it; gone through about 4 sensors on it (killed due to extreme heat but mostly race gas). I have an LM2 also that is working fine but i kinda like my lm1 better for tuning and my lm2 for obd2 stuff


the lsu 4.2 sensors dont last long with leaded gas esp oxygenated leaded gas

Spawne32

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3 weeks guys, 3 weeks, on 93 octane shell vpower

a1320honda

Every O2 has to heat up when the ignition is turned on. You wouldnt want the sensor just sitting there hot all the time. Ive had about every kind of wideband and that includes a couple...yes a couple LC-1's. I love innovates software. Ditched the couple LC-1s ive had (cause they took a dump and got an LM-1 and i love it. It picks up right where the LC-1 left off and i dont need a gauge or computer if i dont want to. It is a big bulky box though. Didnt like the NGK, it never coresponded with the coloration on the plugs, never blew up a motor with it, just always seemed off. PLX was decent, no complaints....HATE with a passion the AEM widebands. Ive seen so many of them fail. Just my .02

Spawne32

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got no problem with the product itself, but if its gona eat through sensors like a *****, we have a problem, because im using it to simulate the factory o2 sensor so we can modify the ranges on the narrow band the ecu see's

a1320honda

Most widebands have a narrow band output just for that reason. I know PLX does for sure.

rat city rex

I lvoe love love my olld school plx m300. Fu$ker is still kicking on the same sensor 4years latter. Not that is anything but, its been great. Everyone I know that has the old m300 loves them.

welfarepc

well now that u have updated the firmware i think you will be ok as long as the sensor placement is ok


take a picture of where you have the sensor mounted

HRTuning

I loved my old school M300, too. Never had a problem with the LC-1s either.