oneludesol

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This could be true, but until these failure stories become a permanent thing in the past then i see there future in the turbo world going no where. It is good to hear positive results about it not crapping out on you so far, granted its not exactly a positive feedback b/c you had to modify the wastegate. But if ppl continue to have good " long lasting experience " with ssac turbos then there name could yield better feedback. But i dont see that happenening any time soon. So update this post in a few more months and xxxx miles and see where the quality of there turbos are. </TD></TR></TABLE>

believe me, if this thing takes a **** on me, it will be the most well documented failure story that has ever been done on these units, no more hearsay no more friend of a friend experiences, but from the cradle to the grave pics, stats, and information... Next update in 3 months.

93supercoupe

well thanks for the write up, even though it seems thats not alound here unless its a name brand.


The people that are piking him apart are retarded.We all know these turbo's are cheaply made, i mean they are only 200 dollars, but u guys pretty much ruined one of the more informative posts on HT in the last month.

Some of these people that are hating this thread are probably douche bags in real life, and am glad i dont have to be near them.

oneludesol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well thanks for the write up, even though it seems thats not alound here unless its a name brand.


The people that are piking him apart are retarded.We all know these turbo's are cheaply made, i mean they are only 200 dollars, but u guys pretty much ruined one of the more informative posts on HT in the last month.

Some of these people that are hating this thread are probably douche bags in real life, and am glad i dont have to be near them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

JACER63

ive rocked the ching chow meow **** for 1.5 yrs now and no problems what so ever.. boost is at 18psi and holds strong.. i will buy a garrett or other quality turbo next though for the sake of some piece of mind. to the op good evaluation on the product though , this should not be a pissing contest. for some folks cheap is good till you learn the ropes of turbocharging.

blwn95civic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JACER63 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive rocked the ching chow meow **** for 1.5 yrs now and no problems what so ever.. boost is at 18psi and holds strong.. i will buy a garrett or other quality turbo next though for the sake of some piece of mind. to the op good evaluation on the product though , this should not be a pissing contest. for some folks cheap is good till you learn the ropes of turbocharging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Going cheap could also be expensive

nicks-eg6

i think this is a good thread
i just wish people would be here to learn and help, instead of bash and put **** down.

JACER63

isnt any time you modify anything on your car its a chance it will be expensive mistake&gt;? its called learning what to do and not to do is it not? you just dont throw something together and expect it to run flawless.

JACER63

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blwn95civic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JACER63 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isnt any time you modify anything on your car its a chance it will be expensive mistake&gt;? its called learning what to do and not to do is it not? you just dont throw something together and expect it to run flawless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any time you modify anything on your car the WRONG way there is a chance to be a expensive mistake.... when you do it right there's nothing to worry about.

And sir its called knowing what your doing before you do it, i would rather know how to build a motor rather than thinking i do then going to start it and saying " oh shoot, something just messed up internally". Modifying a vehicles performance isnt a experiment, you either know what your doing before you do it, or you end up waiste deep in your own mess and have to get someone that does know what there doing to help you out.

and the purpose of my comment going cheap can be expensive is when you dont buy quality products, you dont get quality results yielding even more problems

JACER63

i agree with you i think i just worded it wrong. and yes i do believe you should know what your doing before building anything. i simply was stating you learn by mistake and learnig how to fix them so it does not happen again.

blinx9900

im not taking advice from anybody with that front bumper... no i did not read your thread, im not reading anything by anyeone with that front bumper either... why are people still using these junk turbo's?

BEEYOND

I'll chime in for oneludesol's post.-------------I personally tested one myself just for the hell of it when these turbos first made it's way to American soil. 1st turbo took a crap when I started it. 2nd turbo lasted 100miles and the 3rd lasted maybe 2months or so. Remember though guys/gals, these were the very first batches. A few years later, a guy that carries these turbos asked if I wanted to try one for free and that the turbos have been modified to actually work....yes I was hesitant, but i obliged since it was a freebee. This was actually just last year 07'. Got a Civic together with a B-series and ran this china turbo t3/t4.....and holly cow!!! LS/Vtec, JE 8.5:1 compression, B16 stock head, stock sleeves, Crome EFI, pushed out 360whp@18psi on 93octane with very conservative timing. Ran 11.1@127mph consistently with no oil/turbo problems. and yes the turbo is now sold to my buddy and is still running strong.

Do I carry these turbos.... YES only if customers demand them
Do I carry Garrett turbos.... YES only if customers demand them
Do I carry Turbonetics turbos... Yes only if customers demand them
etc...etc... etc..


Do I have these China turbos, Garrett turbos, Turbonetics turbos in stock... YES a little bit of each...

I'm just sharing my experience that totally matched this dude's post. Not trying to sell $300 turbos vs. $700 turbos. PERSONALLY I WOULD BUY A GARRETT AND END THE DAY THIS WAY...................IF I WAS LOW ON MONEY I WOULD NOT BUY THE $300 TURBO AND INSTEAD SAVE UP FOR A $700 GARRETT....
again i'm just informing people that these china turbos have worked for myself thru some rigorous driving/racing and letting some of you doubters know that this "oneludesol" may not be lying after all eventhough his front bumper is so VISed-out.

My overall personal preferences for daily driving and/or full race:
GARRETT
Borg Warner
Turbonetics
Holset
MasterPower(real type)
China Turbo





Modified by BEEYOND at 7:49 AM 4/9/2008

DRIVENRacing

afi kit, xspower t70 turbo.. 434 whp @ 13 psi, 10.65 @ 136... Try 2 years, 3 setups, and still scoooting... but i still rock the gt4088r because im a BALLER!!! haha hater tech makes my day every time i see competition.. now for their manifolds i cant say the same they just plain suck.. and the sad thing is, they are welded withc the highest quality machinery, just uses the wrong materials they will learn one day...

Tjabo

Couple of great posts here toward the end of the thread. I'm just glad the thing has been left alive for discussion.

It is pretty interesting how different people perceive this stuff, with some taking it sooo seriously. If a person makes an informed decision to mess around with these turbos, for whatever reason, then so be it. There are as many different reasons to do it or not do it as there are people to ponder the question.

Thanks again to the OP for offering up some factual and unbiased observations!

taggart_lumpy

nice.... good to see things working out well for you

oneludesol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not taking advice from anybody with that front bumper... no i did not read your thread, im not reading anything by anyeone with that front bumper either... why are people still using these junk turbo's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are such a douche bag, you represent every single thing that is wrong with H-T...

oneludesol

Thanks to everyone who has the mental capacity to understand the meaning of this thread and not trying to ruin it...

adseguy

So I'll ask again. What did you want us to say in this thread? "Good job, a known bad quality turbo is working for you" ? Even you said the quality isn't there AND you had a problem with it. I mean I still don't get the point of this.

"Hey guys, my digital watch I got out of a cereal box is still ticking after 6 months of light use....AMAZING!!!!" &lt;---that was for mike93eh2 haha

oneludesol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adseguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So I'll ask again. What did you want us to say in this thread? "Good job, a known bad quality turbo is working for you" ? Even you said the quality isn't there AND you had a problem with it. I mean I still don't get the point of this.

"Hey guys, my digital watch I got out of a cereal box is still ticking after 6 months of light use....AMAZING!!!!" &lt;---that was for mike93eh2 haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

I actually didn't want YOU to say anything about this thread... I don't care about your experience with the turbos good or bad, I don't care what you think about their quality, price, or how they are made. The purpose was to post a first hand account of the use of this product, nothing more, nothing less. When someone reads this now or searches it out in the future, they are going to be able to read an honest, well documented review of the product in question, this works both ways, if the turbo fails tomorrow, they will be able to see pictures and know exactly what happened to it from a first hand account and not the same hearsay BS that has been posted over and over.

xfrankx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adseguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So I'll ask again. What did you want us to say in this thread? "Good job, a known bad quality turbo is working for you" ? Even you said the quality isn't there AND you had a problem with it. I mean I still don't get the point of this.

"Hey guys, my digital watch I got out of a cereal box is still ticking after 6 months of light use....AMAZING!!!!" &lt;---that was for mike93eh2 haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

see man you missed the ENTIRE POINT of the thread.

it wasnt to get peoples opinions AT ALL. it was to I N F O R M people about a product he used. its like reading a magazine article. you cant read one in d sport and then type your stupid *** opinion and have it show up in the magazine like you can on here. you read it, say "hmm i dont agree with that." and finish taking your **** and go on about your business.

thats what it was intended to be. a PRODUCT REVIEW. nothing more. i dont know the thread starter and im not defending the turbo in question all im saying is he wrote something up on a product you dont like so your getting all pissed off for some reason. i dont like the damn turbos but im not angry he made this thread. im happy he made it because it was well written and a lot of threads on here arent. so it was nice to read it especially since most people dont do this.

once again no one asked for your opinions on the turbos. you should have treated it like a magazine article and read it and forgot about it if it had no interest to you

ya get what im sayin here?

im not being a dick here man you just gotta see what your really reading

oneludesol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfrankx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

see man you missed the ENTIRE POINT of the thread.

it wasnt to get peoples opinions AT ALL. it was to I N F O R M people about a product he used. its like reading a magazine article. you cant read one in d sport and then type your stupid *** opinion and have it show up in the magazine like you can on here. you read it, say "hmm i dont agree with that." and finish taking your **** and go on about your business.

thats what it was intended to be. a PRODUCT REVIEW. nothing more. i dont know the thread starter and im not defending the turbo in question all im saying is he wrote something up on a product you dont like so your getting all pissed off for some reason. i dont like the damn turbos but im not angry he made this thread. im happy he made it because it was well written and a lot of threads on here arent. so it was nice to read it especially since most people dont do this.

once again no one asked for your opinions on the turbos. you should have treated it like a magazine article and read it and forgot about it if it had no interest to you

ya get what im sayin here?

im not being a dick here man you just gotta see what your really reading</TD></TR></TABLE>

reactone

Good post, too bad a bunch of homos had to ***** it up with nonsense. Many of these comments are the reason H-T sucks alot of the time IMO.

LShatchie

me and a few friends have all had great experience with the use of their turbos along with oil restrictors...cant beat a new t3t4 for $150 shipped

lambertincorp

half the people with all the hate are not even turbo

chris1741

Nice review.

Very detailed and informative.

Dont listen to any of these guys taking offense to a chinese made turbo working. Its really a bigger issue than a cheap turbo. The new bandwagon to jump on on h-t (and maybe the country as a whole) is being against anything made in china and anything outsoursed or produced to/in another country.

Business is about making money. If you can get a part made in china, mexico, or anywhere else for a fraction of the cost, you would be a fool not to. To say that because a product is made in china or anywhere else it is inferior to a usa made product is asinine.

I realize i got off topic, but the issue at hand is really not a cheap turbo. I dont truly believe anyone cares that much if you blow your $200 turbo (or free in your case). The issue is that these people think you or anyone else supporting these companies are morally wrong because they copy other companies products and have them reproduced in china for lots less and sell them for lots less. Its called business and has been going on in every industry forever and will always happen as long as there is money to be made.

Hate it or love it, its here to stay.