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Old 01-24-2006, 05:00 AM
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the was a thread on here about someone installing headers with a turbo? isnt it one or the other? or can u have them both?
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One or the other.
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They do have manifolds that look kinda like a header.... that's about it though. One or the other.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by {PBA}Threat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They do have manifolds that look kinda like a header.... that's about it though. One or the other.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, tubular turbo manifolds look similar to the upper portion of a header, but thats where the similarities end. A turbo bolts onto a 02 housing that bolts onto a turbo manifold. All of this goes where a header would go, so you can't have both.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IslandSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"></TD></TR></TABLE>
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some v8 guys use a rear mounted turbo (i havent seen many on honda apps)

sts make a turbo kit that is rear mount.

so it "IS" possible to have a header and a turbo
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some v8 guys use a rear mounted turbo (i havent seen many on honda apps)

sts make a turbo kit that is rear mount.

so it "IS" possible to have a header and a turbo
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I've seen those before. They claim to have very little lag, but I'm skeptical about hanging a turbo back by my gas tank and so far away from the engine.
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I have seen them on trucks, was looking at them for my four runner at one time, but this also scared me, see to vulnerable where they put the turbo
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've seen those before. They claim to have very little lag, but I'm skeptical about hanging a turbo back by my gas tank and so far away from the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

totally agree.
i was making a point:

all these people that are calling this guy a newb,
when in fact it was a legit question

just wanted to show some people up and help someone out
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

totally agree.
i was making a point:

all these people that are calling this guy a newb,
when in fact it was a legit question

just wanted to show some people up and help someone out </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hadn't even thought about that, but I explained up there anyway. On our cars you can't have both. I haven't really inspected one of the rear turbo setups on anything else, but I wonder if the "header" would still techincally be a turbo manifold because it's got a turbo attached to it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but I wonder if the "header" would still techincally be a turbo manifold because it's got a turbo attached to it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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There was also the original TurboRex kit for 84-87 Civics/CRXs which mounted the turbo up behind the back side of the engine, so yes there IS a setup which uses both a header AND a turbo. Of course finding one is harder than finding a virgin in Vegas, and they don't fit anything 88+.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tjbizzo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Of course finding one is harder than finding a virgin in Vegas,

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ill see what i can do about ^^^^
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could you imagine running an n'a header, mounting a turbo at the end of the collector, and then having a pump feed the oil back to the pan?

not a rear turbo system, but would make the car a sleeper for sure
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I can't remember the technical term for those rear mounted setups. I remember reading about how you don't need to run an intercooler since the loooong pipe running to the back kind of acts as an IC. I've seen it on a camaro. Pretty nice... just looks like a strange dual exhaust.
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They are made by a company called STS i think, they released a kit for the type R a while back but have yet to see someone with the kit.

Heres their link

http://www.ststurbo.com/
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muffler turbos, remote mounted turbos, whatever they seem kinda dangerous being as if u were to park on a leaf pile...
it could also be stolen really easy
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how would you get the return oil back into the pan ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would you get the return oil back into the pan ?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Separate Oil Pump
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would you get the return oil back into the pan ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i imagine the oil pressure drop over that long of a line would also hurt the return. Eletric pump assist?
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Default Re: Header w. Turbo? (TrunkRattlin)

we call it a turbo manifold. a header is just a better flowing exhaust manifold.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would you get the return oil back into the pan ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They have their own seperate oiling system.
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Default Re: Header w. Turbo? (TrunkRattlin)

There you go, both header and turbo



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