TheShodan

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So now you feel limited by the sleeves, when its injector size that seems to be your issue as of now, correct?

So I'm confused. Here you're saying the tuner didn't want to take it a "breaking" point, so you're afraid of the tuner AND the sleeves but not the injectors? I'm just search for a little clarity is all.

I know, but you're limiting yourself on your build with your own equipment a bit is all.

hoffmanb16

Normally the ebay vs brand name dribble is fine on both sides, I could care less but the difference with this thread is that:

The op is completley aware of the more common faults and defects of the ebay turbo and is actually willing to test and see if he can improve on these flaws. I think for this reason alone we should give him a little respect and let the process run it's course and support him and not try and push you opinions on him for the time being.

If it faults well then your right, if it succeeds well this will be one of the best tech threads it quite some time......

Lets just see how things turn out.

TheShodan

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If you say so...

rich7777

Your running stock liners bored to 82mm ???? Thats a bad enough idea on a NA engine LET ALONE a boosted engine. If you don't crack a liner they'll go out of round in no time...

boostedteg909

ive been cruisin on these sleeves for jus over 15k miles. i jus didnt wanna over do it on the boost before i kne wat i can safely run wit an awesome tune. i myself am ery surprised i hav not popped this motor. yes i kno i need to make a few changes in the setup (i.e. map sensor, injectors, fpr etc...) but i figured if 10psi is all these sleeves can handle y get all these parts to support 400+whp when my block wnt b able to touch those numbers. i figured get a decent setup that can make decent numbers. play wit it for a bit, check out how this ebay turbo performs. then take it to the dyno nd ramp it up to the max of wat this motor can hold, if i havnt already reached it. nd no i am by no means affraid of my tuner. nd the injectors hav a lil more room. my main concern at the moment r those sleeves. i wanna get an opinion from a well known tuner wit a good reputation on wat these sleeves can hold. if i get the green light for more boost pressure then its game on!!

rich7777

In my opinion you've over done it from when you decided to assemble the damn thing at 82mm. If it was my car i'd leave power where it is and start looking for another block. It doesnt matter how "good" the tune is, its still a ticking time bomb.

pcguy760

rich7777

BTW Mr Shodan, your nothing but a big bully .

pcguy760

Hey go ahead and "ramp it up" - I wanna see what magic your tuner can make with setup!!!! Seriously, I wanna see and post up the dyno sheet too - this thread is gettin interesting lol ....

TheShodan

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Now give me your damn lunch money

TheShodan

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I see your logic, but you're expecting your tuner to have a crystal ball to see if the sleeves "will hold", and he honestly can't do that, or he'd be a millionaire by now. He can only work with what's in front of him; fuel injector, ignition timing, and the equipment that you supply to him so that he can see how the engine will behave. He can't see or predict the durability of the sleeves based upon boost pressure alone; no one can.. So waiting on him for the "green light" really doesn't help you. He can feel safe about everything in front of him, even at lower boost pressure and still experience mechanical problem, be it cracked sleeve or something else. (which kills your test) Or, he may give a green light, and everything will luckily be ok, but then later on, the sleeve still cracks, or it may be fine. the point is, he can't possibly see into the future like that.. Whether you have low boost pressure or high, name brand turbo or not. Its an anomaly that can't be controlled, and the way you're putting it, you're believing that it can be.

This is a perfect example of said cracked sleeve anomaly. This person is going to spend MONTHS beating his head as to why his sleeve cracked and what the tuner could or couldn't do about it.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/cracked-sleeve-but-why-2975704/

Just try not to give your tuner "powers" that he doesn't have. Tuning doesn't work that way. He can only work with what is given to him, and that's what others here are trying to say regarding your e-bay turbocharger and other equipment. You give him too small an injector, a bad piece of equipment, or shoddy engine assembly, your expectations realistically can't be too high, because he doesn't have the right stuff to work with. That's ALL we're trying to say.

Keep it up, but just be mindful of the equipment you're giving him to work with. The more you cut corners now (such as fuel injectors and pump), the more likely you'll be disappointed later.

BTW, you'd better call the ACLU, as someone may get overly-sensitive about what I just stated.

rich7777

NO !!! I'm telling my mommy !!!

What the hell is the ACLU ? ?

TheShodan

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American Civil Liberties Union - Legal Advocate for citizens and their rights guaranteed by the Constitution such as freedom of religion, sexual orientation, nationality, race, etc
http://www.aclu.org/about-aclu-0

Damn British Blokes not understanding Yankee humor.... *Grumble Grumble*

rich7777

I get the picture.. LOL ! You guys just love suing the HELL out of one & other.. he,he,he...

Ha ha ha, that made me laugh ! ! We definatly do have a different sense of humor. I learnt this the hard way when i went out to Florida with the "they speak English, so they'll be just like us" attitude.

Just don't get crossing any donkeys with onions hey ???

justYncredible

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this topic is getting really good!!! lol
i didnt realize the OP skipped out on some essential items.
correct me if im wrong but i thought the stock FPR is fine up to 500+ or something around there. if so, then this part doesnt need to be upgraded

LocoJoe

rich7777

Any updates ??? Has the engine failed ? Have the glue fumes off the turbo killed anyone ?

boostedteg909

no updates yet :/ motor still runnin strong. i wanna get a new turbo manifold nd some adjustable cam gears. theres a place here in socal that will let u dyno to check wat ur hp is at for like 40 bucks so ima check that out pretty soon

Builda'Teg_92

Where at? im in the 951.

boostedteg909

do it dyno

Organization

lmao that aint right

Organization

we don't speak english lol its funny how two people speaking the same language can't understand eachother

rich7777

Its not that we don't understand each other, its more that we have a slighly different mind set/way of thinking. If you take notice to this kind of stuff you'd notice it if you come over here. I find it quite interesting to be honest. We're all different as human beings but we all have a lot in common.

BTW, you guys don't speak English, you speak a "slang" version called American. Untill you stop using words like "trunk" to descride a car "boot" and "hood" to describe a "car bonnet" i won't change my mind. Tree's and elephants have trunks, and coats/jackets have hoods lol... (Just kidding with you )

TheShodan

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The word "trunk" was derived from the carriages that we used in America from coachmakers that eventually because the first car manufacturers, such as The Packard company. On the rear of the carriage was literally a storage trunk, similar to ones used by college students, that carried items that were too large to be in the interior with the passengers.

The original cars also had hooded covers over the engines that left the sides of the engine exposed to dissipate heat since most engines were air cooled. They weren't fully enclosed. Hence the term "hood"

Damn Brits and their "crisps".. Its a damn Potato "chip" for cryin' out loud!!! ;-) (J/K).

sc34dc4

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I went to Ireland for a few weeks and learned first hand the differences in the same word. Took a few days to catch on but it was a fun experience. Love to go back.
chips=fries
crisp=chip
pissing=raining
I'm pissed=drunk
craic=good fun,good times
***=cigarette
holiday=vacation
motorway=highway