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Old 12-05-2006, 01:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow poke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh but they definitely do! Much more so then you would find on a Honda! At least its allot more popular on the S13 chassis due to the angle of the side of the car I guess. My GP sports kit on my s13 has them, ...STOP, your making me sick now... </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the heads up. i just have the origin kit so i guess it is different? All the kits of the cars here have not had those things, so i had no idea lol.

as far as the 2jz thing goes, i absolutely love those motors, just dont think they belong in a 240.. oh well, to each his own...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokes1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gorgeous car Geoff, I can't wait to get one of your turbo setups on my GTR this summer </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man here are some pics of the R14 side of the shop today



thats an R34 on the lift. its getting a complete 40R turbo kit, standalone, fuel system, intake manifold etc etc. Under the black bag is a fully built GT500 nismo long block. You can see my car on the lift and the red s14 under it, as well as a fully built b13 and then of coure the ugliest fully built hatch youve ever seen (it still has eggs on it from a year ago)...



piles of Skyline rear suspensions. I acquired rear ends from every generation of GTR and got them all to do a complete susp analysis on each one.



piles of GTR front ends. i got front ends from every generation...



piles of GTR coilovers. Ive got rare stuff, tein stuff, OEM nissan, JIC, HKS and everything in between. What we've learned on the nissan r&d shock dyno (the one actually at nissan usa) is quite amazing... needless to say i do not believe too strongly in the hyped up susp brands out there... but this is all complete bullshit...

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokes1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, you're completely full of ****. Ever driven a GT-R? I didn't think so. Geoff has driven several, I own one, and I have imported nearly 10 into Canada. The ATTESA system on the R32's is not great compared to the ATTESA PRO on the R34's (It was an option on the R33's), and it does cause hugely unpredictable understeer. Going into a corner if you start to lose some grip the ATTESA doesn't pull power to the front fast enough and causes a wierd reaction out of the car, and causes it to handle very unpredictably. The ATTESA pro does fix a lot of this, but to upgrade to the ATTESA pro you need to install lateral G-sensors, and find an expensive computer, along with some other mods. It is very costly to retrofit an R32
with the ATTESA pro. Go check up on skylinesdownunder or gtr.co.uk and see how many road racers have kept ATTESA in any shape other than ATTESA pro. Anybody who is serious about road racing has gone to a controller that lets you lock in a torque bias or lock it as RWD. The ATTESA in it's stock form works fantastic for keeping traction in a straight line, but isn't great at all for cornering, especially on R-compounds.

Gorgeous car Geoff, I can't wait to get one of your turbo setups on my GTR this summer </TD></TR></TABLE>

Get off his dick, I know way more about the system than you do, either you cant drive or your car has shitty *** tires. Attessa pro was with the V-Spec active rear differential models. You talk of understeer like its the system its self, ignoring the heavy block I6 engine and its oem suspension setup too bad the car (r32) outhandled other cars in its time. There are already several videos of the 32 making killings in the old bestmotoring videos dont make me post them.

Retrofit Lateral G sensors? Only with ATTESS pro? IT ALREADY HAS THAT, you dont know squat and you import them, stick to importing them.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...m.gif


''Go on GTR UK'' huh I've been on that site for a while and there not getting rid of there ETS ecu's there modifying the program. BEE*R ETS tunable ECU is on otmoto for $600-800 dollars . To retro fit the system is childs play.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sure which comment i made, but i assure you i know what im talking about.
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You said on NICO forums inreference with the drivetrain swap ''unfortunately, the swap will not work with any engine except for the RB'' which isnt true.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn! ... Tying the fwd and rwd together at a HIGH tq split will definately cause understeer, no question about it. What about with a low value??</TD></TR></TABLE>

A low value are you kidding me your back to oversteer hello ''lamborghni VT'' you already killed the system biased it without driver intervention. Now if the front or rear wheel slip it wont do anything. 4wd on your car is now dumber than a mechanical system it just drives 4 wheels wont do **** if it slips.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the heads up. i just have the origin kit so i guess it is different? All the kits of the cars here have not had those things, so i had no idea lol.

as far as the 2jz thing goes, i absolutely love those motors, just dont think they belong in a 240.. oh well, to each his own...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Na, the Origin kit on the S13 does not have the door caps either. Honestly Im not sure if there are any kits with door caps for the S14. I think its just the way the bottom of the chassis on the S13 comes so far in, many manufacturers want it to look wider down there and with a wide sideskirt and noting on the door it looks absolutely horrible. Is that a real Origin kit on there? I love how there kits are not insanely over priced like many other Japanese manufactures.

As far as the 2jz, I love the engine too. My best friend used to have one and it made so much power on a completely stock motor with turbo upgrade. Its just that its a pig of an engine for a 240 IMO. + there are so many great Nissan platforms, why would you wanna stray...
Old 12-05-2006, 03:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To retro fit the system is childs play.
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Childs play? so youve built and retrofitted an a non-GTR with ATTESSA?? Id love to see.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A low value are you kidding me your back to oversteer hello</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not an on/off switch, its a *variable* split.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You said on NICO forums inreference with the drivetrain swap ''unfortunately, the swap will not work with any engine except for the RB'' which isnt true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, this is true. Its our swap, we designed it, and its not going to work with any engine other than an RB... it has everything to do with the oil pan, not the trans.

do you normally get this worked up on the internet? you have a small clue of what you are talking about, but definately not nearly enough considering how much **** you are spewing here... do me a favor and just stop posting. Stick with your midshit V8 S13 and leave me alone
Old 12-05-2006, 04:57 PM
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MidShip comes into everyone else's post and tells them how there swap is so shitty blah blah blah....

Honestly I don't think he has made a post in any thread that isn't saying the OP is an idiot....

But of course look for his threads about his projects and you will come up short, I guess he can dish it out but not take criticism himself?

But since he seems to be so knowledgable, MidShip please show your datalogging of the last time you were driving an R32, I of course mean a road course datalogging system with G-Sensors and all. I would love to see a comparison of the ATTESA system functional vs non-functional and how it affects the car on a road course.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Get off his dick, I know way more about the system than you do, either you cant drive or your car has shitty *** tires. Attessa pro was with the V-Spec active rear differential models. You talk of understeer like its the system its self, ignoring the heavy block I6 engine and its oem suspension setup too bad the car (r32) outhandled other cars in its time. There are already several videos of the 32 making killings in the old bestmotoring videos dont make me post them.

Retrofit Lateral G sensors? Only with ATTESS pro? IT ALREADY HAS THAT, you dont know squat and you import them, stick to importing them.

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...m.gif


''Go on GTR UK'' huh I've been on that site for a while and there not getting rid of there ETS ecu's there modifying the program. BEE*R ETS tunable ECU is on otmoto for $600-800 dollars . To retro fit the system is childs play.




You said on NICO forums inreference with the drivetrain swap ''unfortunately, the swap will not work with any engine except for the RB'' which isnt true.[/b]</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A low value are you kidding me your back to oversteer hello ''lamborghni VT'' you already killed the system biased it without driver intervention. Now if the front or rear wheel slip it wont do anything. 4wd on your car is now dumber than a mechanical system it just drives 4 wheels wont do **** if it slips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you talk about these cars like you own them!


so as far as i can tell you get your information from forums and japanese videos. gran turismo doesn't count as "skyline R&D". hands on experience is what matters, not "he said she said". get off the computer, go build your cars and learn something real.
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you talk about these cars like you own them!


so as far as i can tell you get your information from forums and japanese videos. gran turismo doesn't count as "skyline R&D". hands on experience is what matters, not "he said she said". get off the computer, go build your cars and learn something real.</TD></TR></TABLE> PWNED. Sick silvia.
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seen this in the magazine looks sick
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wow GEOFF... I remember buying some SS 90's off you like 5 years ago when you starting posting up some badass **** on here. Love the work always will. This car is simply bad ******* ***. One question i am curious of, do you own Full-Race? If so props on creating one nice company with a good rep at such a young age.
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theres only one thing i and anyone else should do when they see this car....



ok, maybe 2


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CRAZY!

Can buy the S14 200sx 1995y. Shell after accident(~800$) and already repaired. Is it worth to deal with such body. The body looking good now. Dilemma, low price but after accident.

Seems like you have suspensions tranys and engines, are you going to sell something of that?


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Root79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can buy the S14 200sx 1995y. Shell after accident(~800$) and already repaired. Is it worth to deal with such body. The body looking good now. Dilemma, low price but after accident.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would never recommend buying a once wrecked and then repaired car unless you know 100% what happened to it damage wise and how reputable the person was who fixed it. If you have pics of it wrecked Id be more then happy to look over them for you for signs of frame damage and such.
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wow geoff i knew this was gonna be sick earlier in the summer when i first heard about this but i had no idea it was going to be THIS sick. keep up the good work, this is still on my list of cars to build, so thanks for answering all of the questions i asked you about this thing over the summer
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I saw the article in Modified, not long after I heard some info about what you guys were doing. This, along with the black 800whp civic they had in there not long ago either, almost seem out of place.

A sick looking car with some of the most serious underpinnings. My only problem is I can't decide between something like this or an SC300 for my next car.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> do me a favor and just stop posting. Stick with your midshit V8 S13 and leave me alone </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahah, now thats Murdaaa
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beautiful car

Ive always been a big fan of the 240's, not very popular around here.. got a few rb26 skylines and such locally, but nothing like the hondas/acuras. Give nissian a few more years and they will be huge.. Get into it early
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive always been a big fan of the 240's, not very popular around here.. got a few rb26 skylines and such locally, but nothing like the hondas/acuras. Give nissian a few more years and they will be huge.. Get into it early </TD></TR></TABLE>

In Japan, its all about the Nissan's! You dont see Honda's all over the place like you do here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridHatchC1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> One question i am curious of, do you own Full-Race?.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes he does
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I personally like hearing MidShips comments because everyone else just swings from full-races *****. I also think full-races reply's aren't fully his own.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw the article in Modified, not long after I heard some info about what you guys were doing. This, along with the black 800whp civic they had in there not long ago either, almost seem out of place.

A sick looking car with some of the most serious underpinnings. My only problem is I can't decide between something like this or an SC300 for my next car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha i hear you on that! my parents neighbor has an sc400 with 383k miles i just got it off him lol. Going to do a 2jzge non-turbo build up like josh (quickda6). They are some sick cars!! the black civic was my first car. i got it when i was 17, did an LS swap the day i got the car, and the first time i drove it, there was a b series in it... that car is what started Full-Race

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Root79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can buy the S14 200sx 1995y. Shell after accident(~800$) and already repaired. Is it worth to deal with such body. The body looking good now. Dilemma, low price but after accident.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The best thing to do is to have the car put up on a frame table at any reputable body shop. They attach lasers to the frame and can measure it to verify that the vehicle is not damaged. I have seen wrecked cars that were straighter than cars that were never hit! It is, however, a good idea to put a cage in the car regardless.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HybridHatchC1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> One question i am curious of, do you own Full-Race? If so props on creating one nice company with a good rep at such a young age.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i own Full-Race. I started it in my parents garage in 2002, moved to az, got together with some friends from engineering school and one thing lead to another and we ended up where we are today... thanks alot for the props, its the hardest/most frustrating/stressful/sleepless thing ive ever done in my life, but its also the most gratifying.


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2CamKilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally like hearing MidShips comments because everyone else just swings from full-races *****. I also think full-races reply's aren't fully his own. </TD></TR></TABLE>I think you're a idiot.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2CamKilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally like hearing MidShips comments because everyone else just swings from full-races *****. I also think full-races reply's aren't fully his own. </TD></TR></TABLE>

from a guy with 7 posts on a 6 day old screen name, im not going to take you too seriously, but out of curiosity, whos responses are they??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from a guy with 7 posts on a 6 day old screen name, im not going to take you too seriously, but out of curiosity, whos responses are they??</TD></TR></TABLE>Why the milkman's of course.


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