Boostfed

Before you read this I wanted to put a disclaimer in here, RLZ DID NOT BUILD THIS FIRST MOTOR that popped a local machine shop did!

Here is an update to this thread https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1447804

Well after dynoing my car and popping a headgasket , I pulled the head and sleeves did not sink THANK GOD!!!!! The #4 cylinder exhaust side stud did not take much effort to loosen while all others were torqued WELL! These were torqued and rechecked and rechecked to ensure proper torque. Well after pulling the head I noticed none of the cylinder walls had any Crosshatch in them and a funny sandlike stuff on top of each of my pistons. I have not completely pulled the block out (Terry is LAZY) but did pop all pistons and rods out. All the bearings look good! The #2 and #4 pistons looked fine BUT #3 piston had slight scuffing on intake and exhaust side. #1 piston is F***ED!!!! Scuffing bad on the skirts. I sent these pistons/rods/bearings and my head down to RLZ Engineering to check out, make sure the head is perfectly flat and also check out the bearings and skirts on the pistons. It has been determined that the clearances were not correct for piston to wall! No worries since I have new Wiseco pistons on the way now. This information EXPLAINS alot of why my torque was low and power was not as high as it should have been at 32psi 714whp/470 ft-lb torque BUT when initially tuning car 610whp was made on only 20-21 psi. Also one thing the turbo spooled slow on high boost, one bolt was completely gone from turbo to mani and one was very very loose so we did have a bad exhaust/boost leak causing spool up to be slow and sure power/torque.

My set up impressed a customer sooooo much that he insisted I sell him all my stuff off my car since I was gonna be down due to the headgasket(He is a Streetracer in NC). He gave me a LARGE CHUNK OF CASH for my mani, 3" dp( I still got the 5" dp) 2.5" IC piping, Turbo, WG and BOV etc etc $3600 CASH money. I didn't want to do it BUT he insisted SO I just reordered all my stuff

I have some Wiseco pistons on the way with a VERY TRUSTWORTHY RLZ Engineering doing all machine work to my block, I will most likely go down there to assemble the motor myself and clearance everything with Brad Z aka MAX_CFM and Howard's aka airshifter help. Will be 84mm bore now from the 83mm bore I had before. We did have some blowby issues before also which perplexed us and we knew something wasn't right with the power when we turned the boost up.

I will post up results soon, also I have a Full Race Top Mount and 4" dp on the way and FR GT4088R too, we shall see what kind of power all this will make.

Thanks to Geoff, Todd and Anthony from Full Race for always supporting me and also Brad and Howard from RLZ Engineering. I was truly hoping to only have to swap a headgasket BUT things happen. Moral to story don't listen to your machinist(I knew this and was weary) when they say they only need one piston to bore all cylinders.

Again a local machine shop did the machining on this block NOT RLZ! I completely trust RLZ and am looking for some good results.

boostincoupe

I wish I had a fast car.

Boostfed

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Me too!

Arturbo

Is this why you want to talk to me? dont worry terry, you have a lot of good people in your corner helping you out.

art

0VtecKiDD

NA&gt;BOOST

sorry to hear that terry, good luck on the new build

Boostfed

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art</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah actually NOT AT ALL, just wanted to shoot the **** with you and see how you were doing! I :heart: Arturbo!

vaporboy12

good luck terry hope everything works out i need to get my "green turtle"as jason puts it haha back on the dyno. i want to really see how mucha difference 01 type-r cams make from my gsr's ..


-Bret

k24em2

So I get to drive it when im in VA right?

Boostfed

BTW clearance was .0035" recommended by Arias even shooting for 800whp. One piston was used to bore all cylinders SO who is to say one piston may have been off, we don't know. More info once my block is in Brad's hands also!

c jackson

hi terry...hope everything goes good with your manifold fabrication...i mean... wouldnt want anthing 'bad' to happen to your stuff or anything....

Boostfed

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Scud missile directed to Full Race headquarters and CJ's house!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ready to hit the button!

vaporboy12

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Scud missile directed to Full Race headquarters and CJ's house!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ready to hit the button! </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha

accordlove

good luck with the new parts. i like how you switched to wiseco, i bet nutter hooked you up. cant wait to see the new numbers.

Boostfed

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Brad Z is getting me some, dunno prolly some good ole Shelf Stock piston

accordlove

its good to know those guys. im best friends with ryan(teglove2) hes getting my pistons when i get the money to build my motor.

Boostfed

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Oh yeah I talk to him on AIM all the time

accordlove

i was the one that went down to va with him. i also helped him build his car. he is geting out of school right now. i bet he will post on here soon.

uglyasscivic

I imagine that each piston wasnt measured and stamped for each cylinder. I cant believe that some machine shops only measure ONE piston and give all four cylinders the same clearances.

CJ, Make sure Terry DOES NOT get the same manifold that you guys made for me. Build him that new Fullrace log manifold I heard about.

Boostfed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I imagine that each piston wasnt measured and stamped for each cylinder. I cant believe that some machine shops only measure ONE piston and give all four cylinders the same clearances.

CJ, Make sure Terry DOES NOT get the same manifold that you guys made for me. Build him that new Fullrace log manifold I heard about. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Log is wheres it at bro!!!! That is why you Utah Mormons will never make any power or go fast! I will post your Skateboard BEEF y0!

Teglove2

Well......i wasnt going to post but now i have no choice lol, accordlove. did you just get off the shelfers? Good luck with the new build, bet you wont make that mistake again.
Ryan
Btw, I want to come back to VA beach.


Modified by Teglove2 at 3:21 PM 1/18/2006

D-tuned

Good luck with the build put some laughing gas on that thing

02civicHB

Dang Terry, I hope the cost doesn't hurt your wallet too much (sell me more stuff!!!), Anyway, I know your "new" setup will be great and my wishes for good luck are not needed but in any case good luck!!!

-Ed

Boostfed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02civicHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dang Terry, I hope the cost doesn't hurt your wallet too much (sell me more stuff!!!), Anyway, I know your "new" setup will be great and my wishes for good luck are not needed but in any case good luck!!!

-Ed</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is Belgium??? Eat some waffles for me man! And your mani, dp and wg were delivered to your brother yesterday Rotora brakes on the way and DSS axles

CompressionFed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I imagine that each piston wasnt measured and stamped for each cylinder. I cant believe that some machine shops only measure ONE piston and give all four cylinders the same clearances. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I was thinking. This is a great example of you get what you pay for. A lot of engine builders can make tons of power, but their motors just don't last. (Terry, obviously you can vouch for that). For people just getting into the sport and building high output motors for the first time, do yourself a favor and shop around for builders...don't just go to a shop that close to you!

Terry, I <U>promise </U>I will come over this weekend and wrench on the car with you. The GF is busy all weekend, so I'm free.

CompressionFed

And I'll bring your coveralls and jacket.