Better spark/ignition options
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Good god man,get some shampoo on that carpet.
That's actually a good spot. Any pics of your dizzy and ecu wiring?
Getting a new eBay dizzy this week so I can rid of that damn CYP sensor CEL. :sigh:
I had my car running on idle and I was adjusting the plug wires on the dizzy cap and got electrocuted! Lol well it was a heavy shock anyways
That's actually a good spot. Any pics of your dizzy and ecu wiring?
Getting a new eBay dizzy this week so I can rid of that damn CYP sensor CEL. :sigh:
I had my car running on idle and I was adjusting the plug wires on the dizzy cap and got electrocuted! Lol well it was a heavy shock anyways
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
the car was recovered i got it like that im not sure if i wanna change the carpet or sampoo it because sampooing never really gets it clean in my opinion, but my goal is to get it moving under its own power worse case ill remove carpet and run it bare, and i dont have pics of the dizzy but i remove the three wires (tach,ign,ecu control a21) out of the dizzy and heat shrunk the ends they do nothing now
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
i hear its garbage but i have it now and wanted to get car going while i steadily piece it back together but it works so far but imma change it out sooner or later once it get the car looking and running how i want getting the drivetrain in and running was my primary goal now to get it clean and running
im going thru the harness to freshen it up where the old cracking tape is gonna rewrap it
wash off all dirt grease and wash carpet hopefully it come out then im going to start my build thread going allmotor first then turbo
im going thru the harness to freshen it up where the old cracking tape is gonna rewrap it
wash off all dirt grease and wash carpet hopefully it come out then im going to start my build thread going allmotor first then turbo
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
No the blaster SS is a junk coil pretty sure he is using it for now and has new one on the way.
I was being fecitious about the dirty and clean thing geez. Lol
I was being fecitious about the dirty and clean thing geez. Lol
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
actually all three connect to the summit box go back and read my previous post about how i connected them i explained it a couple times
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i did not take it serious bro just explaining my circumstances of the dirtiness except for the body and interior panel the car is dirty, and under the hood to me is not presentable well more so now i gotta wash it down and go over the electrical harnesses secure some things before i feel good about it but over all the engine runs good i used the old wires and plugs since im still working on things and dont want my pretty wires getting dirty
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[QUOTE=Turbo-LS;49781147]No the blaster SS is a junk coil pretty sure he is using it for now and has new one on the way.
yes new one on the way thats why the msd blaster isn't secured and imma use it as a back up coil
yes new one on the way thats why the msd blaster isn't secured and imma use it as a back up coil
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
What would you guys recommend for an external coil then? I don't really plan on getting a CDI box anytime soon. Just want something I can replace the stock external coil I have with and be able to open up my plug gap some.
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
I would go back to page 1 and read the entire thread bro it really gets into depth as to what components in the ignition system (ICM, COIL< CAP with external coil post) oem and aftermarket are and what roles they play, and their weaknesses.
Also explains which components on the market you can use and which brands that are reccommended to use to how to wire them correctly with wiring diagrams
The only thing thats not shown in detail is where or how to mount everything for that you have to get creative
Also explains which components on the market you can use and which brands that are reccommended to use to how to wire them correctly with wiring diagrams
The only thing thats not shown in detail is where or how to mount everything for that you have to get creative
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
short version
ICM
1.You can leave if good or replace (oem brand is the best) or
2. Relocate to a cooler place outside distributer or
3. Replace with a ign box of some sort (in which case you might need an ICM delete circuit
Coil
1. you can use oem or
2. Replace with an aftermarket internal coil like accel or
3. Replace with an external coil like msd hvc-hvc2, crane ps92-ps92n-lx92 ( external coil cap needed)
there is more brands out there that probaly do the same job but these are the brands discussed in here with value, price and reliability being the topic of choice
ICM
1.You can leave if good or replace (oem brand is the best) or
2. Relocate to a cooler place outside distributer or
3. Replace with a ign box of some sort (in which case you might need an ICM delete circuit
Coil
1. you can use oem or
2. Replace with an aftermarket internal coil like accel or
3. Replace with an external coil like msd hvc-hvc2, crane ps92-ps92n-lx92 ( external coil cap needed)
there is more brands out there that probaly do the same job but these are the brands discussed in here with value, price and reliability being the topic of choice
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So an old friend of mine who's a senior Acura tech gave me his old oem td81 dizzy
I installed everything with just the oem stuff just to see how it will run and if the cel went away. (Accel coil and oem hitachi ignitor)
Well it did,no cel and it runs well (for now)
I'm kinda torn apart,obviously my external setup is already wired in and everything, I just need to connect the two wires from the actual dizzy it self. Blue to gray and yellow black to the bypass/summit wire
BUT I'm really hesitant on cutting the ICM/coil spade connectors inside the dizzy like I did last time. Just on the fact that its not exactly reversible . At least not without soldering wires back on
Is there a way to run this setup without cutting wires inside the dizzy?
I installed everything with just the oem stuff just to see how it will run and if the cel went away. (Accel coil and oem hitachi ignitor)
Well it did,no cel and it runs well (for now)
I'm kinda torn apart,obviously my external setup is already wired in and everything, I just need to connect the two wires from the actual dizzy it self. Blue to gray and yellow black to the bypass/summit wire
BUT I'm really hesitant on cutting the ICM/coil spade connectors inside the dizzy like I did last time. Just on the fact that its not exactly reversible . At least not without soldering wires back on
Is there a way to run this setup without cutting wires inside the dizzy?
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Only thing I can think of is using quick taps
But will it give a good enough and constant connection?
What do I do internally? Leave the icm/coil in there? Take them out and just leave their connectors dangling?
But will it give a good enough and constant connection?
What do I do internally? Leave the icm/coil in there? Take them out and just leave their connectors dangling?
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
Noooo! do not use quick taps lol
Here's my thought. Do you know how to depin wires from OEM connectors?
You could snag a new connecter pair from the junkyard or wherever. Doesn't have to be a distributor plug if you grab a two-pin connecter from somewhere else under the hood the uses the same gauge wire you should be good to go.
Depin the wires you need where they run into the OEM dizzy plug and insert them into your new two-pin connecter and solder the leads from your ignition box to the other side.
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
Do not use quick taps, ever.
I used a budget quick connector for some wiring I did on my s13, namely a quick disconnect harness for the coil packs and I relocated the ignitor. I'll try and remember where I got them.
I used a budget quick connector for some wiring I did on my s13, namely a quick disconnect harness for the coil packs and I relocated the ignitor. I'll try and remember where I got them.
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
Yeah I've only used quick taps for audio connections lol
But do please share some ideas of how I can use the external stuff without cutting any distributor wires
But do please share some ideas of how I can use the external stuff without cutting any distributor wires
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
I can depin the wires but I've never REpinned wires before...
Also, I went to the junk yard last weekend and picked up an oem Civic radiator fan pigtails, two wire connection. One side has a little thicker gauge wiring but I think it should be ok
Is there a how-to link on how to depin/repin? I have the old dizzy to practice on lol
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
Why dont you just leave the icm and coil in the dist then remove the coil neg that way the circuit will be dead, hot but dead it wont fire the coil also you can choose to unplug the tach output and use the summit box tach output. It probably can work with the icm
another option is to remove coil/icm and heat shink the wire ends and strap/secure them to one of the icm screw holes with one of those insulated metal staps from homedepot in the electric isle near the plastic tie wraps
another option is to remove coil/icm and heat shink the wire ends and strap/secure them to one of the icm screw holes with one of those insulated metal staps from homedepot in the electric isle near the plastic tie wraps
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Re: Better spark/ignition options
What do you guys think about this idea
The internal connectors are female spade connectors.
What if I dremel a tiny hole on the dizzy cap run two wires in there (grey wire and the two from summitbox/bypass) and connect them using male connectors and heatshrink/cap the ones arent used?
The internal connectors are female spade connectors.
What if I dremel a tiny hole on the dizzy cap run two wires in there (grey wire and the two from summitbox/bypass) and connect them using male connectors and heatshrink/cap the ones arent used?