SiRCiviC94

Honestly every thread don't forget the head studs!

I know the head is torqued properly currently at 250hp. It's a Jdm 1st gen b16a engine internally stock. Headgasket has 30k and is going strong.

I want to run over 11lbs maybe 14lbs up to like 325whp on it tuned properly but all is said the head will lift.

I'm not pulling the head till it needs forged internals but want it to last I'm happy with that for sure

Not sure if my eBay t3/t4 is up to the challenge and am saving the better turbo for a b18c

justYncredible

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are you venting out or asking a question?

wunfstgsr

lol

your to lazy to install arp studs but know if you boost more the head could possibly lift? hmm what to do... Wait just save em for the b18c and do all the forged fun stuff then..

Schister66

I made 315whp on my stock GSR without touching ANYTHING internally and I never blew a HG. Having said that, they're not that hard to install...you pull the valvecover, remove the cam retaining caps, pick up the ***-end of the cam and lift it out from the timing belt, then unscrew the head studs and replace with ARP studs, torque and reassemble...3hr job including smoke breaks

SiRCiviC94

I'll think about it.... Venting

wantboost

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It's all in the tune with stock headstuds... ARP's give you more clamping force and therefore allow higher cylinder pressures. However the head will need to come off to install them and you will need a new headgasket

SiRCiviC94

I'd use a 3 layer gasket for turbo and arp or even higher stage studs. If I go better studs and a turbo gasket the pistons won't handle over 340whp would they? It wouldn't be so much effort to leave the block in and swap low
Comp piston eagle rod arp bolts at the same time.

The same time in labor I could swap in my Gsr swap n shoot for 350+


Very lost on what to do / build next hoping for
Opinions :/

Stock super strong b16 it might take the 325whp as is good tune!

justYncredible

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im confused as to what your trying to get across. personally i have never heard of a turbo head gasket. as for head studs, there is only ARP and they dont do stages.

i just dont understand why some people want to push stock pistons so far passed there limit.

SiRCiviC94

I don't know. I guess I should get in there and do it but am not ready for that step. It's a process. & it runs so damn good!

As for the studs! Td autowerkes has 1000+hp studs.

Thicker gasket = turbo gasket

justYncredible

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negative sir, its just a thicker gasket
i would stick with OEM head gasket; the quality, precision and ingenuity is all there.

wantboost

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You can't really rate studs by power... golden eagle and ARP both make larger half inch studs but you have to have machine work done to the block and head to use them.

Just get ARPs and an OEM gasket and stop attention whoring

wantboost

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And thicker gaskets are to lower compression, correct any milling done to block or head, or to potentially fix valve to piston clearances

LocoJoe

BTW I made 607whp on a B16 with OEM bolts so.........

wantboost

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^all in the tune... ignition timing dictates that for the most part

jdm_h22

Damn son.


OP... if you really wanted to get around taking everything apart to install studs, you could do it the lazy man's way (i.e. one stud at a time) to avoid replacing the headgasket. Granted, you still have to take the cams out and then re-time, but that's cheese.

I'd much rather do it right and install a fresh oem gasket, but that's just me.

Schister66

^^I prefer the lazy-man's way, but don't tell anyone

jdm_h22

Right on It works.

LocoJoe

I installed ARP studs lazy-man's way now that im gonna push the power

wunfstgsr

Haha thats what im talking about! "push it to the limit!"

crash!

$100 bucks and a couple hours worth of work for extra strength... I think that's worth it.

SiRCiviC94

Tempting some what! Thanks for the replies.

The gasket and studs were all replaced brand new in 08 has like 20-30k on it now no issues 250hp

Shooting for 325whp ish... Which is pretty big bhp for a stock b16a

SiRCiviC94

So. Follow the removal procedure and take out 1 stud at a time... Which is take off cam
Covers cam caps cams... Then I can proceed to unscrew the stud then tighten the arp down? Tempting.... But work. But could be done.

If money isn't tight I'll drop forged Ross and pistons. Arp bolts and oem gasket.

Right track?

Btw I have a good tuner. But even he rec studs for over 310ish whp

crash!

It wouldn't be a bad idea to do the head gasket at the same time at all. Just take the head bolts out (evenly), take the head off, new HG, put the studs in, evenly torque. Then go from there.

SiRCiviC94

Ya and how many more bolts to drop in standard bore forged pistons and good
Balanced Rods/ rod bolts. Then add the 500hp turbo/intercooler n play?

I might as well leave this stock till I'm ready to
Do so or lazy man some assurance for more boost.

Hmmmm

Bseriescivic5

340whp here, 100% stock b16a2, ARP head studs, used headgasket........ hahaha no problems yet. Evans tuned though